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post #51 of 56 Old 05-08-2010, 08:05 AM
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I don't understand why people compare halter horses to riding horses. They are not the same thing. They are not even in the same category!

A halter horse is called a halter horse for a reason. They are not bred to be jumping four foot fences, be able to chase a cow around an arena, or run a mile race in less than two minutes.

They are not bred for their suitability to be rode. Let them be. If you don't like them, don't get one.
I have to disagree with you .

The debate here is
Halter horses are supposed to be judged on their conformation and suitability as breeding stock.

Now if their conformation inhibited their ability to perform in any discipline let alone the disciplines the breed is well known for ...

How is it a good example of the breed??

I am not saying all halter horses are like this.... all horses have their faults there is no "perfect horse" .
But breeding for exaggerated traits in any breed to a point where it becomes a defect should not be rewarded in any show ring in my OP.





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post #52 of 56 Old 05-08-2010, 10:53 AM
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They are not bred for their suitability to be rode. Let them be. If you don't like them, don't get one.
Really!!! Why would you breed if not to ride them for one reason or another!

The goal of any breeder should be to breed a horse that has correct conformation.....and I am talking basic conformation not the fine tuning of the things like the slope of shoulder for jumping as compared to barrel racing or the angle of the hock......just that there should be what is an acceptable angle of hock for your average horse as apposed to no angle at all and this goes for pasterns, stifles, etc...


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post #53 of 56 Old 05-08-2010, 10:54 AM
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I don't understand why people compare halter horses to riding horses. They are not the same thing. They are not even in the same category!

A halter horse is called a halter horse for a reason. They are not bred to be jumping four foot fences, be able to chase a cow around an arena, or run a mile race in less than two minutes.

They are not bred for their suitability to be rode. Let them be. If you don't like them, don't get one.
They should be. A halter horse should be judged on his ability to what the breed is bred to do. Like has been stated a QH was bred to run and be a using horse. They where bred to work cattle and then go to a race. What the AQHA halter horse has become is not what the QH really is and should be. You see this problem not just with horses but conformation classes with dogs. A animal shown in halter should be able to go and perform in a performance class latter that day. Which most do not do. Now I understand that there are those who show halter that do not want to ride and that is fine but their horse should still look like it could go and do anouther performance class.

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That is one thing that I love about those ranch horse versatility competitions. After a full day of cutting and roping and reining and trail classes, the horse is stripped of the saddle, put into a non-flashy halter and led into the halter class, sweat marks and all. They have to prove that they can look pretty and work hard too.

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They should be. A halter horse should be judged on his ability to what the breed is bred to do. Like has been stated a QH was bred to run and be a using horse. They where bred to work cattle and then go to a race. What the AQHA halter horse has become is not what the QH really is and should be. You see this problem not just with horses but conformation classes with dogs. A animal shown in halter should be able to go and perform in a performance class latter that day. Which most do not do. Now I understand that there are those who show halter that do not want to ride and that is fine but their horse should still look like it could go and do anouther performance class.
I don't disagree, but we all have opinions about what "should be."
Dressage "should be" about a partnership between horse and rider, showcasing training and a horse using itself properly - not all the fake stuff you see winning today.
Jumpers "should be" about the partnership of a spirited, talented horse, and an equally spirited and talented rider, not about submission due to big bits and rollkur in the warmup ring.
Western Pleasure should be about a horse that is a willing, easy, smooth ride, not the extreme you see in the ring today.

Lots of stuff "should be" but isn't, unfortunately.


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You see that horse in my avatar? 110% halter bred. I can fit him for halter, and when I do, he's **** near unbeatable - but it's freaking HARD fitting a horse for halter and keeping them fit. His movement suffered because of it, so he retired from halter, and he's my riding horse now and he does everything.

Asking a halter horse who is fit to perform in a rail class, is like asking a body builder to do a proper ballet. It's just not possible. However, just like body builders, special diets are used and special work methods. But, if you changed the diet of the body builder, and started training for lean muscle, you'd have half a shot.

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