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post #21 of 36 Old 05-02-2010, 02:21 PM
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I wasn't trying to make you sound awful at all, i just honestly didn't understand which is why i asked.

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You have every reason to do what you feel. My mare Babee is a 15.2 hand Appendix. an I am breeding her because I want a foal that I can train and use for fure shows eventing, hunters or what ever.

You make that choice it sounds like you want to be a trainer/breeder typ so I say if you really want to do this then why not?
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I agree.

Basically both are pretty much equal. I like that the first one went the extra mile and got registered with the AWR and was first premium.

The second one has the advantage of having the foals able to be shown under certain programs and the jump is better on this pony.

Because your horse is a cross and the foal could only be register as half the payback program of the second pony may be redundant. The first one may give you more registration options.

Conformation...the first one

Jump...the second one.
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Personally I prefer the second one, but thats just my choice
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Thank you everyone! At this point I do not know who to chose, so I will email the breeders to see what their policies are for outside & unregistered mares.
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Thank you everyone! At this point I do not know who to chose, so I will email the breeders to see what their policies are for outside & unregistered mares.
Have you thought of getting your pony registered AWR like the first one is?
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Spyder, how would I register her? Like, I know nothing of her background, breeder, dam/sire, etc. Would I have to be reg. myself? Qualifications? I would happily register her in anyway I can to better a foal's chance. :)
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In order to get an accurate crituque of what you are looking for, we need to see both pictures of the intended stallions (which you've posted), but the mare as well.

I will tell you this much, I do not like the hip structure of either of these two...there is something lacking, and I wouldn't want that passed on, unless I knew the mare had a near perfect hip, and rear leg structure.

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Hahahahha, mom2pride, no she does not. I posted semi-decent pictures of her on page 2, I believe.
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Hahahahha, mom2pride, no she does not. I posted semi-decent pictures of her on page 2, I believe.
Hahaha...yeah I saw that "after" I posted...

If you are set on one of these two stallions, I would go with the bay stallion. He has the best over all conformation and may be able to best straighten out the flaws that your mare exhibits. BUT...moms flaws may still wind up being predominant, so realize you may not get a baby that's any better, conformationally, or performance wise than her...it's just a risk you take breeding your horse; not a slam, by any means.

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The best stallion is the one that best compliments your mare.

have you seen a video of either of these stallions? (did i miss it somewhere?) if you are breeding for a hunter you absolutely must consider movement, along with quality of jump. without a video you can't judge how nice of a mover either of these guys are.

as far as hunters are concerned... you're looking at 2 possibly very different ponies here. First of all is the 1st one more suitable for dressage or for hunters? Because the ideal movement between the two is actually different. A nice dressage horse often does not have the ideal hunter movement. And like i said, movement is everything! The ad for the 2nd horse mentions his 10+ movement, big stride, and nice jump. All crucial for the hunter ring! Rosmel's are known amongst pony people to be on the fancier side.

Also, size matters! How big is your mare? The first one, first of all, is section A. Generally in the hunter ring a Section B (horse 2) is more suitable. Keep in mind too that in the show ring you have smalls (up to 12.2), mediums (12.2-13.2), and larges (13.2-14.2). I know you can't really determine exactly how tall a horse is going to be, but a 14.3 horse is almost worthless in resale value. A 12.3 or 13.3 is pretty hard to sell as well. And as a whole smalls are hard b/c the kids who are going to ride them are going to be young beginners so it MUST be trained very well and beginner friendly. And lots of parents don't like buying a small knowing their kid is going to outgrow fairly quickly. Mediums are much easier to sell. And while your initial plans are to keep this baby forever, every good breeder needs to think about resale value.

My vote (if you're really looking for a hunter) is horse 2.

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