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        01-02-2011, 02:40 PM
      #21
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    Thanks, all! Of course we'll be getting with my instructor/trainer and we'll get on the right track for this show season. He's an awesome horse!

    As for endurance riding I've thought about it but I'm not really into it. We might could go that direction with him if dressage or jumping does not work out for him..

    Ok about saddle fit. I ride a horse that has really high withers and he has a pad that you put under the saddle for that. I don't know much about it, I'll have to look into that. Would that kind of thing help? Like I said I don't know much about saddle fitting. I'm off to do some research! :)
         
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        01-02-2011, 04:32 PM
      #22
    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by Eliz    
    Ok about saddle fit. I ride a horse that has really high withers and he has a pad that you put under the saddle for that. I don't know much about it, I'll have to look into that. Would that kind of thing help? Like I said I don't know much about saddle fitting. I'm off to do some research! :)
    I too have a horse with high withers. There were a few things that I considered for her when looking for saddles:

    -Good wither clearance (obviously!) basically I wanted to see good clearance of at least an inch so that the gullet wasn't resting on her withers at all.
    -The slope of the wither will also determine which makes and models will fit best as some withers are high but slope gradually into the back. Others are much more clearly defined and you need to be careful that this lack of slope is equalized so that the weight is distributed evenly along all of the muscles and the wither is not used as a platform, thus bearing too much weight alone.
    -Consideration for the shape and width of the shoulders and back is also important so it will depend greatly on the individual horse. A horse with narrow shoulders and a high wither will require a different fit to a horse with broad shoulders and high withers. The same goes for the back conformation.

    I just tried a variety of saddles until I found one that was suitable. As for pads, you can buy 'cutback' pads that are like a normal pad with the wither section cut away and they can help to boost the saddle off the withers. These only work when the saddle itself fits well but the gullet is resting too low on the wither itself.

    Having said all of this, I am by no means a saddle fitter so if you have access to one they will be able to help you far more than me!
         
        01-02-2011, 07:05 PM
      #23
    Green Broke
    He's not the ideal hunter, but at the lower levels on a local circuit he should be ok. He doesn't really carry himself as a hunter (most Arabs don't) but he doesn't have terrible knee action and his canter is better then his trot. If he can clock around a hunter course on a consistent (and correct) pace, get the correct distance to all his jumps, and swap his lead you should be ok.
         
        01-02-2011, 07:26 PM
      #24
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    Thanks Sarah & Upnover!
    I'll look into a saddle fitter for sure.
    Like I said I'll get with a trainer and see how far we can go ;)
         
        01-02-2011, 08:37 PM
      #25
    Foal
    I can definitely see potential for dressage. As for being show sour, im assuming you mean like flat classes, just going around the outside edge of the ring? If that is the case, he will probably find dressage a little less boring, I know my sisters mare got bored with hunter and western flat classes. Dressage causes more brainwork, so it might be different in his mind, who knows.

    As for the high withers, lots of dressage horses have high withers, tb's especially tend to, so you can be sure there are saddles out there to fit. I also like to stick a half pad under the saddle, they work nicely.
         
        01-03-2011, 01:41 PM
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    Originally Posted by wheeler4x4    
    I can definitely see potential for dressage. As for being show sour, im assuming you mean like flat classes, just going around the outside edge of the ring? If that is the case, he will probably find dressage a little less boring, I know my sisters mare got bored with hunter and western flat classes. Dressage causes more brainwork, so it might be different in his mind, who knows.

    As for the high withers, lots of dressage horses have high withers, tb's especially tend to, so you can be sure there are saddles out there to fit. I also like to stick a half pad under the saddle, they work nicely.
    Yes, just rail classes, going around the ring. That's why I'm hoping he'll like dressage, after all it is more brain work and it's more than just going around the outer edge of the ring. :) I think that's what a horse I ride has.. a half pad. Like I said I'll look into saddle fit and ask around. Thanks!
         
        01-03-2011, 09:53 PM
      #27
    Yearling
    Sorry I noticed to that he seemed off or stumbled in that one spot.
         
        01-04-2011, 01:29 PM
      #28
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    Yes...

    I've been researching saddle fit and I read that stumbling is a common side effect of an ill fitted saddle. I'm going to take a look at his saddle and see if it fits. I'm thinking of ordering an front riser pad if that's the case because of the lack of muscle he has around his shoulders/withers.
         
        01-06-2011, 09:42 AM
      #29
    Foal
    I see him as much more of a dressage horse than a hunter. There are arabs who do well in the hunter ring, but they're few and far between - they tend to have too much knee action and get up and go when compared to the WBs that are dominating the shows now. But fortunately what works against him for hunters is great for him in dressage!

    My biggest critique is for you to be always thinking of what diagonal you are on. Through the first video you're rising with the inside leg ;). Also, it's minor, but they're HUGE petpeeves of mine - riding without a helmet, and riding in jeans. Both scream (to me) unprofessional, and riding in jeans will actually scratch the seat of your saddle from the seams rubbing.
         
        01-11-2011, 06:13 PM
      #30
    Foal
    If you enjoy dressage, I think this horse would probably be a better dressage horse than a hunter as most Arabs are. At least in the USET world of hunting, not the Arabian HUS stuff which he previously did. Arabs are usually very adept at learning lateral work, are light in the bridle, and ones built like yours are good at collected work. The tricky part is getting them relaxed, straight, reaching to the bit instead of curling, and really moving forward/extending, so their strengths are also their weaknesses. Your guy has a nice walk, is comfortable to ride and is responsive to your aids; all things good for dressage. I didn't really get to see a pure trot as I think he was trying to canter instead, but the trot can be improved and developed quite a bit. His canter looked nice and I think 3 beat for the few strides I saw, but you will need to sit into him, drive him forward and let him go. Don't hold your hands low to try to get him to put his head down. Just follow his head and focus on getting the hind end active and the forehand lighter. Enjoy!
         

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