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        03-01-2009, 02:13 AM
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    Weanling
    critique this 2008 filly potential buy

    I am looking into this filly and I asked for more pictures of her. She is a 2008 filly. The picture was taken last month.
    Her bloodlines include ima cool skip.
    She is double registered AQHA and APHA
    They are asking 1700 for her.
    WHat do you think of her? Do you think she is worth the asking price?



         
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        03-01-2009, 02:15 AM
      #2
    Weanling
    Here is her equine ad

    Chestnut Mare Halter Quarter Horse for Sale in Houston, Texas | Buy This Horse at Equine.com
         
        03-01-2009, 07:32 AM
      #3
    Weanling
    I have to head out and feed the horses so I can't make a full post, but there is one thing I saw that made the red flags go up, and its that she is HTPP N/H x_x!

    She is built beautifully, but the N/H worries me like you wouldn't believe.

    How is she double registered? The white on the back leg is above the paint line?

    Again, i'll take a better look when I get back from feeding and training and all that.. but beware the N/H. This could lead to some serious grief and vet bills for you down the road! =)
         
        03-01-2009, 08:44 AM
      #4
    Banned
    She is quite down hill, but as she growns she'll even out(mabey not all the way, but quite a lot.) On the back, her fetlockl looks swollen. And I've got to say...I think she is worth the asking price. She is just fricken gorgeous!!
         
        03-01-2009, 10:10 AM
      #5
    Weanling
    I don't know much about critiquing a horse without seeing it being ridden... but in my opinion she is gorgeous, and for being so young I think she has a pretty good conformation.

    Yes she is quite downhill if you pay attention to her withers and top of hindquarters (croup). But the way she's standing (to me), doesnt really show her being very downhill. I think shell even out a little more as she matures and gets older.

    Her price is a little steep... have you checked her out in person yet?
         
        03-01-2009, 11:07 AM
      #6
    Weanling
    She's not actually that downhill, which is surprising in a QH. If you look at where her hocks are compared to her knees, she's almost level - which is a good indication that as she grows, she'll probably end up equal and level :)

    Her neck is a bit on the short side and appears to tie in a bit straight (that could be though because no withers have developed yet, so it looks a bit odd)

    She's got the nice QH butt with a decent loin connection.

    If she is in fact N/H, that's a huge concern, and something you might want to research before you invest in her.
         
        03-01-2009, 12:46 PM
      #7
    Weanling
    What does N/H mean? Never handled? Ummm... lol
    Also her shoulder is quite upright. You want it to be more sloping.

    Her face is so cute!
         
        03-01-2009, 01:11 PM
      #8
    Weanling
    N/H means she is a carrier of the HYPP Disease, not Not Handled (good inferencing though!!)

    N/N - Not a Carrier for HYPP
    N/H - Carries the HYPP disease (though it may lie dormant and not be obvious)
    H/H - HYPP infected horse

    "Hyperkalemic periodic paralysis (HYPP) is an inherited disease of the muscle which is caused by a genetic defect. In the muscle of affected horses, a point mutation exists in the sodium channel gene and is passed on to offspring."

    Source: Horse HYPP
    UC Davis Veterinary Website

    Isn't HYPP what Vidaloco lost her horse, Fancy to?
    Fancy's story

    HYPP was believed to be stemmed from an AQHA Stud named "Impressive". A HYPP positive horse (H/H) and even an HYPP carrier (N/H) Will develop a BEAUTIFUL physique at a young age without much work from the handler. They always had an edge in the show ring because of this. Some N/H horses are really easy to tell apart because when they are just days old they are WAY too muscled.. like, there is no way they could have formed that much comprehenzive muscle in the first few days of life. These H/H and N/H horses kept winning in the show ring so more and more people started breeding them, then suddenly these horses started having seizures and dying.. so they found out about the disease.

    AQHA and APHA (i believe) no longer recognizes and registered a H/H horse. I believe in the last few years they are trying to put a ban through to not allow old registered H/H horses, and current N/H horses to show alongside N/N horses (its literally just not fair to show a carrier with a healthy horse.. the carrier more often than not wins because of the muscle tone and whatnot). You can still register a N/H horse, but im not sure if your allowed to breed it (?) or you have to breed to a non carrier in order to have the baby be registered (?) again, that's all up to speculation.. I just heard this talked about in my local Horsemans Council. It would make sense if they did that though. People who have non carrier work so hard to put honest muscle mass on their horses, only to lose to one that is diseased.

    I would not purchase this horse unless she -really- cheap. I could find a better, non diseased mare for the price of 1,700 (especially in this horse-over-populated-world).

    Its a shame too, because she is REALLY beautiful, but you'll need to watch what you feed her like a hawk, and have to accept the fact that she may die very suddenly at a young age.

    Google some images of H/H and other N/H horses and look at the difference between the N/N horses and some of the N/H. I would post some pictures here, but they aren't my horses to post :p don't want to step on any toes! =)
         
        03-01-2009, 01:20 PM
      #9
    Foal
    Gosh, she's very well grown for a 2008 filly.

    Forgive me for my ignorance, and apologies for semi-hijacking the thread, but does that mean she's likely to suffer from HYPP later in life, or just that there's a chance she'll pass it on to her offspring (so can't be bred from)?
         
        03-01-2009, 01:30 PM
      #10
    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by Jenna    
    Gosh, she's very well grown for a 2008 filly.

    Forgive me for my ignorance, and apologies for semi-hijacking the thread, but does that mean she's likely to suffer from HYPP later in life, or just that there's a chance she'll pass it on to her offspring (so can't be bred from)?
    I think she is well grown because the HYPP isn't dormant in her =/ (Judging by how well toned she is for the owners saying they don't have the time to show her in Halter. I could be completely wrong though, they could have trotted her our every day and sweated her out and all that jazz.. im just speaking from my personal experience).

    HYPP N/H horses are both Carriers of the disease and can pass it onto their offspring (the test will determine if the baby is a carrier or not). And N/H horses are also have a chance of dying from the disease if they arent properly taken care of. A positive H/H horse -will- pass the disease onto the offspring, and will most definitely die of the disease if they arent properly cared for.

    As I said though, N/H horses can die of their disease if they arent properly cared for. There is a chance the Disease is more dormant, but you're better off playing it safe and giving them the special diet to ensure they don't die from the HYPP =/

    And I don;t consider it Hijacking, its still on topic critique of this Filly, LOL! I'd want this input if I posted this thread =) Rather than spending 1,700 dollars and ending up with a dead horse =/!
         

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