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        03-16-2011, 01:57 PM
      #11
    Foal
    I agree about the longer back. GORGEOUS though, and she looks like a lovely mare.
         
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        03-16-2011, 02:21 PM
      #12
    Green Broke
    Just be sure to look at the progeny of a stallion you choose to help dertermine phenotypical traits. If you can see the mares too, that will help too. This way you can find something that will improve your odds of getting a shorter coupled and better hind legged offspring.

    There are a TON of stallions out there. The trick is to find a proven stallion that has progeny.

    Good luck. When you pick one you can repost pictures of your mare, the stallion, progeny and (if you can find them) mares that the progeny came from. The hunt is as much fun in this as the find.
         
        03-16-2011, 03:05 PM
      #13
    Started
    Has your mare been bred in the past? I know that the older the mares get to be as maidens, the more difficult and risky the whole process can become.

    As hard as it is, that is also that you should be able to take into consideration; would you be able to forgive yourself if something did happen to the mare and/or foal and one of them passed away? Like you, I really would like to breed my perfect mare... but I cringe when it comes to really tough questions like these.
         
        03-16-2011, 04:44 PM
      #14
    Yearling
    No she has never bred before which is a thought n my mind however there seems no reason why she should not carry ok according to the vet.
    Its questions like that which doubt me however I feel that the chances are weighing more in favour of breeding her and hoping to god it all goes well!!
    We have a good setup for foaling and have had 4foals born her before so we do have cameras etc set up.
         
        03-16-2011, 10:09 PM
      #15
    Green Broke
    FWIW and having done a good bit of this, I can tell you that the most dangerous thing a large animal can do is give birth. IF an animal is going to have problems that could cause death, foaling and calving is up there at the top.

    That being said, horses typically foal with normal presentations and fewer complications per 100 head than high producing dairy cattle. Some breeds are far more prone to foaling issues than others, such as miniature horses. Warmbloods are not ones that have more than the average number of problems in foaling.

    Nothing you do is without risk. Riding in a 3 day event is very risky. Flat track racing is very risky. Steeplechase even more so.

    Just keep things in perspective and know that MOST horses do not have complications at foaling. If you are on top of things you further reduce risk. If you have a vet you can call at any time you reduce the risk even further.

    Just sayin'
         
        03-16-2011, 10:14 PM
      #16
    Showing
    Split her in half, and I like her front half. I am not a huge fan of her back end; she is wasp waisted and has a fairly weak hindquarter. She's got a nice shoulder and her neck ties in nicely top and bottom.
         
        03-17-2011, 06:45 AM
      #17
    Yearling
    Ye there is a 24 hour vet on standby at all clinics during breeding season and I would be closely working with the vet to ensure everything goes to plan.

    Yeher hindend isnt the nicest so im thinking a nice big boned irish hunter to give her some substaence and hopefully givve the foal longevity to event and hunt with added bone
         
        03-17-2011, 09:28 AM
      #18
    Started
    I like this mares front end more so than her back end. None of her I would really encourage breeding, she has nothing "exceptional" to offer to pass along. I like where her neck sits and her throat latch, her head is nice enough and her shoulder has a good slope to it too. Her back is long and weak and not going to "help" her carry weight as you suggested. Her hind quarters are small and weak also, she has a very short croup. Her weight fluctuates a lot in the photos, I would suggest keeping her more like the first riding photo. She is thin in a number of pictures.
         
        03-17-2011, 02:26 PM
      #19
    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by MaggiStar    
    I have put some thought into it and I know I could sell the foal should it not work out.
    I am fairly sure I know her weak points and can counteract them wiht the right stally
    Wow... really such confidence from some one that has done no breeding (at least that is my understanding).....with the horse economy the way it is right now it is cheaper and you will have better luck getting what you want if you purchase a foal at weanling..........I personally don't think she is breeding material. There are no guarantees regardless of what stallion you pick.

    And as a one time breeder having complications with both mare and foal at birth....I would not recommend it to the inexperienced and for those of you who do not have deep pockets.....the first 24 hours cost me a bundle.

    I consider myself lucky as I did end up with a great filly with good conformation and nice movement but my mare was fairly correct in her conformation and had won everything in the hunter ring up to 3' in our area.

    Super Nova
         
        03-17-2011, 06:55 PM
      #20
    Yearling
    Im not from America so our economy is nowhere near yours horses are selling decently enough here and I am not looking at breeding for anohter season maybe 2 depending on stallion quality.
    We have bred before I stated that so we have all the night cameras extra extra large breeding sheds and 24 hour vets on standby so not sure where you are getting your information from. Its HER first time breeding, I like a longer back in a maiden after dealing with short backed ponies and horse I find they carry easier when they are longer.

    Her weight goes down in competition season die to the fact that she only picks at her hard feed as she is in a full 25acre pasture 24-7 however she is in good health throughout the season,
    The pictures where she is larger are when she gets her 2month holiday every year she piles the pounds on. She is a naturally small weight carrying horse she has never been "fat" per say the vet has looked at her nad her feeding and said everything is in the right order basically.


    I am essentially breeding for an eventer myself and not planning on selling the foal though I know situations change I am sure I know of at least 5families who would definitely buy from her as an exceptional hunter and eventer.
    The stallion I currently have in mind is 16.2hh 10 year old Irish sport horse out of Clover hill his stud fee is highly reasonable I am also looking at a lux z off spring
         

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