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        01-28-2014, 08:30 PM
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    Critique away!

    I already see some things I was doing wrong and mostly they were feeding into what he wanted me to do. I was consciously working on that while I rode. This was the worst part of our ride - lateral work moving toward the snow at the far end of the arena. Last time I did this, there was no snow and he was far more willing to do the work. He wasn't relaxed anymore, but he didn't pull off any tricks because I kept him thinking and moving. I was hoping my husband (the videographer) would get videos of the better part of our ride while my horse was calm and relaxed and we worked on bending and seat transitions, but they didn't happen.

    And go!

    Here they are:

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    (Clockwise - This one was modified to steady the video)

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        01-28-2014, 08:53 PM
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    What stands out to me is the way you are trying to get him to lower his head by putting your hands, with a rigid elbow, into a downward pointing orientation.
    This, and the running martingale , are making him move with caution and defensiveness.
    I bet he can really move out a a lot freer than that.

    You need to get your hands to be almost "pushing" forward, rather than "dragging" downward. You want to encourage him to move his poll farther out and away from you, not higher and closer to you. So, really kind of visualize your hands pushing his poll out farher away. Hold your reins more firmly , put your thumbs on top and position them so that your thumb points like a laser beam to the bit in his mouth, NOT toward the floor.
    Put a soft bend in your elbow and keep your upper arm close to your rib cage.

    Also, let your leg drape onto his side.

    I would let him trot out, on a loose rein some, even if he giraffes. Get him moving, in front of your leg, and happy to move, then slowly ask for some contact. If he puts his head up to avoid it, you follow him up, keeping your elbow, hand, to bit alignment, and keep asking him to accept contact. When he does, then think of pushing your hands toward his poll to encourage him to move his poll out more in front, and down, AND, put some leg on let him move out and into the bridle.

    Nix the martingale, if you can.
         
        01-28-2014, 08:57 PM
      #3
    Trained
    This exactly. Thanks for saving me all that typing Tiny!

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    Originally Posted by tinyliny    
    What stands out to me is the way you are trying to get him to lower his head by putting your hands, with a rigid elbow, into a downward pointing orientation.
    This, and the running martingale , are making him move with caution and defensiveness.
    I bet he can really move out a a lot freer than that.

    You need to get your hands to be almost "pushing" forward, rather than "dragging" downward. You want to encourage him to move his poll farther out and away from you, not higher and closer to you. So, really kind of visualize your hands pushing his poll out farher away. Hold your reins more firmly , put your thumbs on top and position them so that your thumb points like a laser beam to the bit in his mouth, NOT toward the floor.
    Put a soft bend in your elbow and keep your upper arm close to your rib cage.

    Also, let your leg drape onto his side.

    I would let him trot out, on a loose rein some, even if he giraffes. Get him moving, in front of your leg, and happy to move, then slowly ask for some contact. If he puts his head up to avoid it, you follow him up, keeping your elbow, hand, to bit alignment, and keep asking him to accept contact. When he does, then think of pushing your hands toward his poll to encourage him to move his poll out more in front, and down, AND, put some leg on let him move out and into the bridle.

    Nix the martingale, if you can.
         
        01-28-2014, 11:37 PM
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    I agree with you almost completely. It's very unusual for me to hold my arms and upper body so stiffly, but I was also having to deal with the behavior issues at the same time. He's very rarely so unrelaxed. I can trot him with his head long and low (and did towards the end of my ride). I agree that he was behind my leg. Actually, I'm a little proud of myself for automatically keeping my hands low (not to keep his head down necessarily) because they used to come up. It was a reflex from lots of saddleseat riding. So, that's actually an improvement of sorts, lol.

    Sadly, my legs can only droop so far on his sides before I'm actually wrapping them around his ribs. He's such a narrow horse that just relaxing my leg down still isn't quite where it should be. I am working on maintaining that light contact with his sides, but it's a conscious thing that I'm working through. Coincidentally, I worked on that after the video as well and even made a comment to my husband about it.

    I sure wish he would've taken more videos! He gets distracted and bored quickly, so I was happy to get those.
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        01-29-2014, 11:21 PM
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    Trying to do lateral work when he is so tight is counterproductive. He needs to loosen and relax BEFORE you do that.

    He is a pretty horse. I have an Egyptian-sired mare that looks like him.

    Nancy
         
        02-01-2014, 05:12 PM
      #6
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by tinyliny    
    What stands out to me is the way you are trying to get him to lower his head by putting your hands, with a rigid elbow, into a downward pointing orientation.
    This, and the running martingale , are making him move with caution and defensiveness.
    I bet he can really move out a a lot freer than that.

    You need to get your hands to be almost "pushing" forward, rather than "dragging" downward. You want to encourage him to move his poll farther out and away from you, not higher and closer to you. So, really kind of visualize your hands pushing his poll out farher away. Hold your reins more firmly , put your thumbs on top and position them so that your thumb points like a laser beam to the bit in his mouth, NOT toward the floor.
    Put a soft bend in your elbow and keep your upper arm close to your rib cage.

    Also, let your leg drape onto his side.

    I would let him trot out, on a loose rein some, even if he giraffes. Get him moving, in front of your leg, and happy to move, then slowly ask for some contact. If he puts his head up to avoid it, you follow him up, keeping your elbow, hand, to bit alignment, and keep asking him to accept contact. When he does, then think of pushing your hands toward his poll to encourage him to move his poll out more in front, and down, AND, put some leg on let him move out and into the bridle.

    Nix the martingale, if you can.
    This for sure...and it was the first thing I noticed....was your hands; very tight, down, and pulling back....and then your horse follows suit with his reaction by his head being all over the place (He's adorable by the way!). I'd like to see you unlock your WHOLE arm...bring your hands up more and get them on either side of the horn....like this:

         

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