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post #1 of 35 Old 05-09-2011, 01:55 PM Thread Starter
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critique and bit question

Last year I was using a ported english bit to show, I think this is the one:

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I wanted to go with something less severe so I switched to a d-ring snaffle for this weekends show but I feel like I was really in his mouth, which is one of the critiques I'm asking for along with eq and movement. I will post more pix as I get them but this is all I have for now:

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I'm thinking it might actually be beneficial to switch to something more like this one because, while it's not as mild, I would not be nagging and bumping, it's a lot of money though...:

Myler Level 3 Dee w/ Hooks - D-Rings from SmartPak Equine

for kicks, a western pick. HORRIBLE I know...

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FP, I'm no expert in the discipline you were showing in, but shouldn't you have aligned hands there as well? I mean rein - hand - arm all in one line. Was he bracing against you?

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FP, I'm no expert in the discipline you were showing in, but shouldn't you have aligned hands there as well? I mean rein - hand - arm all in one line. Was he bracing against you?
I'm confused, so my hands are OK or not OK? He's not really bracing but I'm "bumping" I think?

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They are pretty similar bits. The Myler offers a bit more comfort as it doesn't have the same "corners" as the c port, but, fundamentally they will have a similar action. You may get some independent side movement for shoulder control with the Myler bit.

Why do you think it is more severe than the snaffle? Some horses respond well to the toungue relief offered by the ported bit.

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I'm confused, so my hands are OK or not OK? He's not really bracing but I'm "bumping" I think?
Reins and forearms should create a straight line from bit to elbow. Your line is broken.
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Reins and forearms should create a straight line from bit to elbow. Your line is broken.
So position more like in the western pic?

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They are pretty similar bits. The Myler offers a bit more comfort as it doesn't have the same "corners" as the c port, but, fundamentally they will have a similar action. You may get some independent side movement for shoulder control with the Myler bit.

Why do you think it is more severe than the snaffle? Some horses respond well to the toungue relief offered by the ported bit.

I just always assumed a port was severe? I don't use a chain with that do I?

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Your hands in your English photos are too far apart and way down in your lap. They should not be below your horse's withers.
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I just always assumed a port was severe? I don't use a chain with that do I?
A chin strap is not required with this type of bit. It has very minor leverage action because of the cheekpiece hooks and rein hooks, but not nearly enough to engage a chin strap. I don't see how a chin strap would serve a functional purpose on either of the bits you posted.
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A chin strap is not required with this type of bit. It has very minor leverage action because of the cheekpiece hooks and rein hooks, but not nearly enough to engage a chin strap. I don't see how a chin strap would serve a functional purpose on either of the bits you posted.
Wow. I used a chain on the first bit I posted. I've seen a lot of people do it so I assumed. So it should work without the chain, which would make me happy but it would give me the preasure I need to lower the poll right?

I think the above pix are very much how I ride daily but just to understand (this is a horrible picture from statefair) are my hands more correct here? Still broken though...right?

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