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post #11 of 27 Old 09-21-2011, 11:53 AM
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It's nice to know that you're going to take your time with your talented horse.
**Corporal make jealous noises**
I REALLY like that you are "cross training" him with trail riding, too.
Good luck with your ODE this weekend!!
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post #12 of 27 Old 09-22-2011, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by wren View Post
But i know i have things to work on. I always feel like i am giving on the landing, but once in a while the pics make it look like i am grabbing him right as we land. Do i need to slip reins? Not sit up so quick? when i get home i'll try to post a pic to show you what i mean.

Our first actual ODE is coming up this weekend. Wish up luck!


As for the grabbing when you're landing, that has a little to do with your hand floating in the air. You probably keep your hand and body close. You need to train your hand to work separate from your body.... continuing forward with your horse's stretch as your body goes back. You can use mane or a grab strap to help train your hand to stay put. You shouldn't slip your reins except on a drop fence. Otherwise you risk losing contact and the ability to set up for the next fence.

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post #13 of 27 Old 09-22-2011, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by MudPaint View Post
I actually have no issue with your heels. Your base support looks really stable and consistent across all the pics. It's not like they are up and your toes are down. You only have one photo where it's different and that's a really awkward jump for both of you. Your release is in the right place, but remember... hand on the neck, not in the air. Even though your pretty stable and don't look like the rider that falls back, you want your hand lightly resting or pressing into the neck. Not only will it give you support (and possible mane if he does jump way big), it will create a less broken connection from the bit to elbow. When you feel comfortable you could move to an auto release. I find that I feel more control with an auto release over the fence as I always have light contact. Otherwise you look pretty darn good. I really love your tight leg.

I jump show jumps from both sides... as long as it's a square oxer it shouldn't matter. The only thing I'd caution against is be sure to put a ground line down for him so he doesn't learn to climb the fences. In some of the s/j shots he's a little close. He def looks like he has some scope! Use some bounce grids to tighten up those knees and you'll be good to go.
She said everything I was going to say.

The jumps are only "backwards" because there is no ground rail or filler on both sides, so he could miss seeing where the actual fence starts, and trip over it accidentally. If it was just the rails there, it wouldnt be a problem...its the filler just on one side that makes it wrong.

Lovely position! Centered in your saddle, heels down, eyes up, good release point.

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post #14 of 27 Old 09-26-2011, 02:47 PM
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I looked again at your pics--Does Capella really need a running martingale while you are jumping? I guess I'm a worrywart and don't want Any piece of equiment on that might interfere. It doesn't look as if he needs to keep his head down. =/ ?
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post #15 of 27 Old 09-28-2011, 03:38 PM
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I'm about to TOTALLY creep for a hot second. The jumping picture at the Delaware Fairgrounds! Haha. I show at the Showtime Series every year with my Hunter! Who do you ride with?
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post #16 of 27 Old 09-29-2011, 08:36 AM
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You and your horse seem like a great pair. He seems very scopey, and you will go a long way. Your position is very nice; good release and you stay with your horses motion, centered over his back and saddle. Just make sure that you don't come down on your horses back when jumping. And for your heel- yeah, it could be deeper, but couldn't ever other riders heels be deeper?
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post #17 of 27 Old 09-29-2011, 08:56 AM
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I like your position. Your seat is back and centered nicely over the saddle. You seem to be staying with the horse's motion quite well. You lower leg does slip back a bit (doesn't ALL of ours do that from time to time?), but it is not to the point of really destabilizing your position. Just be careful as you may be grabbing just a bit with your knees. Keep a tad bit more contact with the upper portion of the inside of your calf.

As for the release....I don't mind a release where you are pressing into the top of the crest too much in stadium, but it is to be avoided on XC. You need to be able to allow more freedom to the horse, quickly, than that will allow. Try moving your hands to the sides of the crest instead. That way if the horse needs more release, you are able to give it. You are a very good rider and are ready to move to a more auto type release.

You have a nice scopey horse. However, he is not too tidy with his front end. I would do more gymnastic grids with two to three bounces incorporated to encourage him to learn to snap those knees a bit more.

Other than those nit-pickey observations, you guys look like a screaming nice team. I'm looking forward to seeing lots of updates from you.
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post #18 of 27 Old 09-29-2011, 09:04 AM
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He has scope and you are riding him well. The thing that concerns me are his hanging knees and uneven knees. I know these are just "hops" for him but in the free jumping where there IS height he is doing it too. On Cross country a horse that does this has greater potential to hit a fence and turn over in the air.

I would take him back a few steps in training and do GYMNASTICS where he bounces over a series of fences. Take him back and put a take off bar in front of your verticals and set up some Oxers as suggested. He looks like he needs the take off bar on the ground to help him find his 'spot.'

I would also get him over some caveletti at a trot with a jump, a stride, another jump. The gymnastics are usually hard to do (rider and horse) but both will benefit from them.

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post #19 of 27 Old 09-29-2011, 11:53 PM
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I dont have much complaint on your riding! I agree with above- dont jump the jumps backwards!! And just be careful with the younger horses jumping them, it can lead to arthritis when older, but if you just started when she was 5 it should be fine, she looks well built. Good luck! Oh and if you were riding dressage your heels would be fine, but with jumping you would want them down just a tad bit more- but they arent to bad!

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post #20 of 27 Old 09-29-2011, 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Corporal View Post
I looked again at your pics--Does Capella really need a running martingale while you are jumping? I guess I'm a worrywart and don't want Any piece of equiment on that might interfere. It doesn't look as if he needs to keep his head down. =/ ?
Ah yes, I didnt see that! I totally agree- and I dont like running martingales- espically when jumping . . . What if they overjump and toss up their head a lot (well not your seasoned horse obviously but a green one) and as your horse is still learning (if i got that right) I really see no need to have one.. And i would love to see you and your horse jumping sometime!

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