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post #21 of 27 Old 09-30-2011, 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by caseymyhorserocks View Post
Ah yes, I didnt see that! I totally agree- and I dont like running martingales- espically when jumping . . . What if they overjump and toss up their head a lot (well not your seasoned horse obviously but a green one) and as your horse is still learning (if i got that right) I really see no need to have one.. And i would love to see you and your horse jumping sometime!
It's funny because they pretty much are only legal for jumping in competitions. They are lot safer for jumping than a standing martingale though. I find mine very useful during fox hunting because no matter how much schooling I do, something about it makes my horse nuts.
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post #22 of 27 Old 09-30-2011, 08:22 AM
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I went bac and looked at the photos and the running martingale on this horse is set up dangerously. ALWAYS put rein stops on the reins when using a running martingale so the rings of the martingale do not slip close to the bit. When they do, they can become stuck there and the horse can "hit" the martingale restriction and really get jammed up (or hurt).

I knew someone who used a running martingale without rubber rein stops and they were in the line up waiting their turn to jump and the horse ducked his head and the martingale leather ended up in the horse's mouth.. the horse raised his head and felt suddenly trapped. Flipped out and over backward. Girl was killed.

I rarely used a martingale. It was better to train the horse. I always used rein stops with a running martingale. Better to leave it off if you do not.

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post #23 of 27 Old 10-03-2011, 01:15 PM
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YOWSER!! I didn't think your horse would kill you with a running martingale. I just thought he might get a foot caught, panic and spill you. This is a great thread!! ...REALLY good discussion. You're gonna have a great partner for a long time with Capella!! **hugs**
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post #24 of 27 Old 10-03-2011, 02:19 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks for the comments everyone!
Originally we started Cappella in a running not only because he was tossing his head, but also to help keep any hand jerks from me to more of a minimum. He jumps quite a big bigger and rounder than my last horse, so it was an adjustment. Anymore I normally take it off for practice and stadium. But like Jumanji said, for hunts and hunter paces he gets way pumped and high headed again.
I do actually have keepers on both bridles, they are just pushed closer to his nose than is probably good. You can see the little pointy parts of them sticking up. I know martingales are one of those controversial pieces of equipment sometimes, but its what my trainer suggested.

I think Gymnastics are a great plan for him for the winter. We are also going to work on coming in straight and stop the wiggles! At our event last week he came into two of the stadium jumps like a worm! I actually just ordered Jimmy Woffard's book on gymnastics, so hopefully that gives us some good exercises. I always look forward to winter again so we can get all teh major work done before show season starts back up again.
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post #25 of 27 Old 10-03-2011, 02:24 PM Thread Starter
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Originally Posted by Allison Finch View Post
I like your position. Your seat is back and centered nicely over the saddle. You seem to be staying with the horse's motion quite well. You lower leg does slip back a bit (doesn't ALL of ours do that from time to time?), but it is not to the point of really destabilizing your position. Just be careful as you may be grabbing just a bit with your knees. Keep a tad bit more contact with the upper portion of the inside of your calf.

As for the release....I don't mind a release where you are pressing into the top of the crest too much in stadium, but it is to be avoided on XC. You need to be able to allow more freedom to the horse, quickly, than that will allow. Try moving your hands to the sides of the crest instead. That way if the horse needs more release, you are able to give it. You are a very good rider and are ready to move to a more auto type release.

You have a nice scopey horse. However, he is not too tidy with his front end. I would do more gymnastic grids with two to three bounces incorporated to encourage him to learn to snap those knees a bit more.

Other than those nit-pickey observations, you guys look like a screaming nice team. I'm looking forward to seeing lots of updates from you.
Thanks Allison! I was hoping you'd have a chance to take a look. I think my favorite riding quote ever came from my instructor about gripping with my knees..."Stop gripping with your knees and show me ****ty legs! Open those thighs!" Sorry for any young ears, but man it made me laugh. and helped me remember....
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post #26 of 27 Old 10-03-2011, 02:26 PM Thread Starter
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Originally Posted by jumpwhat007 View Post
I'm about to TOTALLY creep for a hot second. The jumping picture at the Delaware Fairgrounds! Haha. I show at the Showtime Series every year with my Hunter! Who do you ride with?
Yeah, its delaware! We actually didn't show up there this year. Maybe next year when my nothing-but-legs-and-speed boy learns what a 5 stride line is. We went up to school a couple of times and i loved it! i love the variety of jumps, and its just so nice and pretty.
I ride with a small trainer who mostly does eventers over on the west side of town. Where do you ride?
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post #27 of 27 Old 10-04-2011, 11:21 AM
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I ride with Julia Gillum at Baycrest. Over near johnstown. But u also have an ex evener that I keep at a little farm in Delaware.
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