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        01-13-2011, 07:08 PM
      #11
    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by Gizmo    
    I really disagree. She is only six so the bad habbits she has made like not bending her body can easily be fixed and why wouldn't you expose her to barrels if that is what you are going to be doing? Its not like she was galloping them, she was trotting them, testing the horses at the purpose she is buying the horse for. When you desensitize a horse and everything I bring my mine around barrels so they know what they are and they aren't going to be scared of them. So showing a horse a barrel is good, not bad. Who cares about "perfect" conformation. Show me a perfect horse and I can bet someone will still see something wrong with it. There is no such thing as perfect. From what I saw she looks pretty good for a barrel horse for me. I think she is a great prospect. She is a beauty and is FAST! "Whoa" is something you need to work on, which is probably from being pent of for two months, she just wants to go go go! But everything that I saw can be worked on. And she is only six and doesn't sound like they really worked with her if she hasn't been ridden in that long. She is still a baby and needs a little more training.

    At 6, this horse should be a lot more broke than she is. My 4yr old moves more balanced and can turn a barrel CORRECTLY b/c she was taught the correct way. This mare, obviously wasnt. There is no reason to even take this mare around the pattern if she cannot use her body correctly. Balance and using themselves properly is the number one concern for ANY horse, especially before you put them on the pattern. There is no reason for this horse to have ANY bad habits at 6 on the pattern. She needs taken back to the basics. She doesnt even know how to rate properly. She just goes by the barrel and then cranks her neck around it. The person that broke and patterned this horse did not take the time or make the effort to learn anything about barrels or training a barrel horse before they got on this mare. There is MUCH more to it than run and turn. The main concern with this mare is getting her to use herself correctly. Right now she is just kind of throwing herself around the barrel, slinging her rear end around the barrel instead of USING IT and being very rubber bandy in her neck.


    I didnt mention anything about every horse being perfect, but she is not built anything like that of which I would want in a barrel prospect. There are certain things I look for such as low headed, low hocks, short cannon bones, a short back, etc. The list goes on and on.

    Look at the horses that are winning at the pro level. They are built a lot different than this mare.

    To the OP..if you like her go for it. I have no use for a local caliber horse so when I look at a horse, I think congress and rodeo level. If the horse does not fit that caliber of competition, then its not something I would be interested in. I do, however, realize that not everyong is looking for that caliber of a horse, but it doesnt change the fact that this horse needs a lot of work. I just want to make the OP aware of what she is in for if she wants to get this horse working correctly and make a nice barrel horse out of her. She needs a LOT of work off the barrels and repatterned.
         
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        01-13-2011, 07:58 PM
      #12
    Banned
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    Originally Posted by OneFastHorse    
    At 6, this horse should be a lot more broke than she is. My 4yr old moves more balanced and can turn a barrel CORRECTLY b/c she was taught the correct way. This mare, obviously wasnt. There is no reason to even take this mare around the pattern if she cannot use her body correctly. Balance and using themselves properly is the number one concern for ANY horse, especially before you put them on the pattern. There is no reason for this horse to have ANY bad habits at 6 on the pattern. She needs taken back to the basics. She doesnt even know how to rate properly. She just goes by the barrel and then cranks her neck around it. The person that broke and patterned this horse did not take the time or make the effort to learn anything about barrels or training a barrel horse before they got on this mare. There is MUCH more to it than run and turn. The main concern with this mare is getting her to use herself correctly. Right now she is just kind of throwing herself around the barrel, slinging her rear end around the barrel instead of USING IT and being very rubber bandy in her neck.


    I didnt mention anything about every horse being perfect, but she is not built anything like that of which I would want in a barrel prospect. There are certain things I look for such as low headed, low hocks, short cannon bones, a short back, etc. The list goes on and on.

    Look at the horses that are winning at the pro level. They are built a lot different than this mare.

    To the OP..if you like her go for it. I have no use for a local caliber horse so when I look at a horse, I think congress and rodeo level. If the horse does not fit that caliber of competition, then its not something I would be interested in. I do, however, realize that not everyong is looking for that caliber of a horse, but it doesnt change the fact that this horse needs a lot of work. I just want to make the OP aware of what she is in for if she wants to get this horse working correctly and make a nice barrel horse out of her. She needs a LOT of work off the barrels and repatterned.
    I completely agree. This is a perfect example of why a horse should have a solid foundation before seeing a barrel pattern.

    This horse is NOT a baby, and her issues will be more difficult to fix because of her age.
    BTW I don't think this horse is fast at all ;).
         
        01-13-2011, 08:01 PM
      #13
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    As for the horse being perfectly built comment....a horse should be built for its discipline. This horse is NOT. Its not an opinion, its fact.
         
        01-13-2011, 09:16 PM
      #14
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Gizmo    
    I really disagree. She is only six so the bad habbits she has made like not bending her body can easily be fixed and why wouldn't you expose her to barrels if that is what you are going to be doing? Its not like she was galloping them, she was trotting them, testing the horses at the purpose she is buying the horse for. When you desensitize a horse and everything I bring my mine around barrels so they know what they are and they aren't going to be scared of them. So showing a horse a barrel is good, not bad. Who cares about "perfect" conformation. Show me a perfect horse and I can bet someone will still see something wrong with it. There is no such thing as perfect. From what I saw she looks pretty good for a barrel horse for me. I think she is a great prospect. She is a beauty and is FAST! "Whoa" is something you need to work on, which is probably from being pent of for two months, she just wants to go go go! But everything that I saw can be worked on. And she is only six and doesn't sound like they really worked with her if she hasn't been ridden in that long. She is still a baby and needs a little more training.
    Thank you for your input, the mare's small quirks can be fixed. I have already fixed part of them. Also, her confirmation is awesome. Not perfect, but pretty dang good. Her butt is not what it used to be but, she isnt eating what I consider good feed either. She does deffinitely need a whoa and some work on swining her butt, but those are all easy fixes to me. Again, thank you.
         
        01-13-2011, 09:18 PM
      #15
    Yearling
    I'm sure she will turn out great. Keep me updated on her! Want to see her improving, I'm sure she will excel.
         
        01-13-2011, 11:04 PM
      #16
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Gizmo    
    I'm sure she will turn out great. Keep me updated on her! Want to see her improving, I'm sure she will excel.

    I sure will :)
         

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