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        06-05-2011, 05:01 AM
    Green Broke
    Smile Critique me riding Sammy again please

    Ok I am bit nervous about putting this up because this is Sammy and I pretty much at our worst. Also the video isn't very good as its on my phone because our video camera isn't working at the moment. My mum is videoing and I'm not sure what she is doing some of the time and she gets some 'nice' close ups but anyway ... I would advice to mute it because all you'll hear is my mum talking to the dogs and me talking to either my mum or sammy. Also skip to about 40 seconds, before that is just my mum sorting the phone out and sammy minorly spooking at my mum lol.

    I am also aware that I was posting on the wrong leg at first I don't know why it took me so long to realise and at one point Sam didn't particularly want to stop. I have been trying to work on keeping my elbows by my sides and sitting back more oh and looking up. After watching this I personally don't think I have improved a lot. I don't think my leg or hands are very good and I still look like I am kind of hunching over. Anyway what do you all think? (if you can even get anything out of it) Opinions of how Sam and I are going? Critique Sam as well if you can thanks.

    To me sam still has his head a bit high and I am not really sure if he is working from behind or not. I have know idea. He also may not have looked like but he definitely felt soft for most of the ride, he wasn't all out bracing against me like he did at first. Sorry I'll just shut up now.

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        06-05-2011, 09:23 AM

    I can see that you really love riding, and that's the main thing really.

    Just a few pointers;

    You swing your legs around when your trotting, im not sure if this is because your trying to kick him, but it doesn't matter.
    You should have your heels down, and your weight driving into your ankles.

    You need to bring your elbow's in to your side, and influence him with your body, right now your just pulling on his mouth, and that won't make him work from behind.

    Good Luck!
        06-05-2011, 10:24 AM
    I like that you are looking up and how this is making you sit up straight! This is something I find quite difficult myself.
    We come from different sides of the planet so what I see needs to be 'repairing' might not be what you have been taught to do this way. But I'll try to give my best here.

    Something to work with:
    I can't be sure form the video but you seem to balance yourself with the help of the reins and through them you are holding your horse from the mouth. That could be the reason why he is holding his head that high. You should balance yourself with your body isntead. I would suggest lunge lessons without reins. You could do different exercises like swinging with your arms while posting. These look funny but are helpfull Or if you think you have a safe/capable enough horse you could do it without the lunge by just letting the reisn go for a while.

    You mentiond sitting back. Did you mean back=more far back in the saddle or sitting straight up? Because in my opinion you are sitting a bit more bakc in your saddle than you need to. When you sit correctly in the middle your leg will swing back where it should be to form a straigth line from your shoulder to

    I do like your horse. He seems to be working with you even though he is not working from behind. That is something you have to teach him in time.
    And good luck also!
        06-05-2011, 11:57 AM
    First, what would you like to accomplish with him? What discipline are you working towards, etc. For the majority of the video I thought you were in a dressage saddle, but now I see your in a stock saddle.

    Your seat and body position are not bad. It did seem that your leg was moving a bit, but not too bad really. Your leg needs to be under your body more as it does come forward too much. You might need to put your stirrups up a hole.

    I like Artemis's suggestion of riding him on the lunge without having your reins. This will do wonders for your balance and position. I would also suggest working him on the lunge in bridle and neck stretcher. This will help him learn to carry himself correctly and learn to accept the contact without him trying to also balance you on him. I would also put a nose-band and flash on him. He is trying to avoid contact putting his head up and gaping. After he has learned to accept the contact and self-carriage then you can take them off if you want.
        06-05-2011, 05:00 PM
    Green Broke
    Thanks everyone I definitely did notice my legs moving a lot also, seems I really have to work on that. A couple of times it was me trying to direct him or something but it was also just my legs moving. I noticed I was sitting a bit back in the saddle too, what I meant by sitting back was sitting up straight, taller.

    A lot of people do seem to think I rely on the reins for balance but I really don't if I let go of the reins I would be fine. I have done so on a more reliable horse at all paces. The reason I say more reliable is because Sam is generally (though it doesn't really show in the video) a very forward horse. It has taken me a long time to get him to stop going into a really fast canter when asking for a trot or simply taking off because he is excited.

    Maybe it has something to do with me but whenever someone rides him he nearly always chucks his head up like that, though he isn't bracing against your hands anymore. Out in the paddock unless he is really stretching out and going he tucks him self up very nicely at a trot and canter.

    Also to answer (back in the crosby again) yes that is a stock saddle and I ride english in it. I would love to get a dressage saddle because hopefully one day I might be able to do some dressage. I am not real sure what direction I would like to take but dressage has always popped out at me.

    Oh yeah I think the lunging is a great idea I'll ask my instructor if we can have a lesson like that on one of her horses. (mine don't always behave when being lunged lol)
        06-05-2011, 05:26 PM
    I had an idea of you balancing with the help of reins because your hands were moving a bit while you were posting (something I ment to mention but forgot). I had the same problem and that's why my old isntructor tought at the beginning that I am looking for balance. The lunging still helps and it's a bit easier thing to correct than balancing.

    I have a smiliar head issue with my new gelding. His problems come for the hind end. He has everything on the place but he is just not co-operating when I ask him to work more with his back legs. What I can suggest is transactions. This gets the horse more 'snappy'. My gelding gets really alerted and I can feel him waiting what next? Trot? Walk? Halt? Canter? And every time he goes for the next movement he uses his hind end really well. At the beginning it's only a few strides but it gets better.
    I have also used neck stretcher what back in the crosby again suggested on my other horses and I would recommend it too while lunging.
    I still think that head issues mainly come from the hands so maybe you could have your instructor to work with this too?
        06-05-2011, 05:30 PM
    Green Broke
    Yes I will ask my instructor about that I do think my hands need work. Thanks for the suggestions I will have a go at them when I ride him today.
        06-05-2011, 05:49 PM
    Green Broke
    Anyone else have anything to add?
        06-05-2011, 06:17 PM
    I have the same problem with my hands, but it is not because I am using them for balance. It is because I am not letting them be springy enough at the elbows. They float up when I rise, they come down when I come, because I'm not changing the shape of my arm.

    If this is what you are doing (and I am green, so I can't tell from the vid - just from the conversation) then maybe what I do will work for you too. We decided it was better for me to keep my hands a little too low all the time at a trot, just so I can get used to what my elbow and shoulders need to be doing. So I make sure that when I'm trotting, I can always feel the hair of his mane on the backs of my knuckles as I'm posting. Not all of my knuckles - :) - just the bottom ones that would sensibly be touching the horse if I were holding the reins properly with my hands a little low.

    So I let the rest of my body do a proper post, but as long as I can feel hair, my arms are going to be doing more or less what they are supposed to. It is not easy, but it is helping!
        06-05-2011, 06:22 PM
    Green Broke
    I will have to have a go at that serafina I think that will help a lot with my hands

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