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Critique my flat/jumping...

Alright... putting up critique threads always make me nervous Anyway; critique as you wish. Be harsh, I don't mind. I am truly looking on improving my riding. I havent ever got to expierence the joys of a trainer, seeing as I have never had the extra money for one, so... I have tried my best to learn how to ride myself, with the help of the internet, and friends...

Now, just giving a critique I see:
My hands seem to move. A ton.
My horses head is way up and off in space (maybe the view is better from up there?)
It seems to me its as if I am propelling my horse with my seat...
Annd, I can't tell if Im posting on the right diagonal or not.

Also at 0:25, what Im doing with my hands is I drop them, widen them, and it encourages him to bring his head ddoowwnn... And, on the last jump, I have no idea why when at landing I pull my hands to my hips... Im guessing I must have slipped the reins, or something, but it looks weird.

I always feel like Im doing amazing at riding until I record myself, then I sit back and watch in horror xD

Thank you so much! (and oh, sorry about he dog...)

E v e r y horse is good for something. You dont throw a whole life away just cause he's banged up a little...

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post #2 of 8 Old 09-15-2012, 03:52 PM
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I feel the same way when I get recorded,like really? Lol
I think you have a good start, your shoulders are back for the most part and your looking up. Two very good thing to support and balance your body when riding.

Things I see that could really help you:
Shorten those stirrups a bit. You want a good shoulder, hip to heel line. With shorter stirrups you can work on keeping a quieter lower leg and ot grip with your knees. When you shorten those stirrups work on putting the weight of your body down into your heels, then will help a ton but it takes time to build up that strength in your lower leg, you should work on getting up out of the saddle, dropping that weight intoyourheels, toes forward. This will create a string solid lower body support.

Exercises to help with getting strong with your lower leg position:
When your at home find a step and stand on the edge of the step, make sure your holding on to the wall in case you loose your balance (also best toxoid inyourriding boots but regular shoes will be fine too. Practice putting your heels down while keeping a slight bend in your knees. Stretch down for 10 seconds and back up to rest then back down, do it inshore reps a couple-few times a day if you can and when your feel like you can Goldie longer addon a few more seconds at a time. This will help build a strong blance from hip to heel. You can also do this on your adorable horse :) make sure your booty is up out of the saddle and just slit at the walk for a few strides then sit a few and go back up. The longer you hold this the stronger your lower leg will get and your get a good base support from your heels.

Remeber when doing this ON the horse to look up,keep that chest open (like you have a million dollar bra or a necklace that lays on your chest on) sounds silly but it works. At this point if you need to hold your self up for short periods of time with your hands on your horses neck that totally fine,just practice with hands off for short times too, this will start to really build your core tummy and back muscles up that you will be needing!

As for your hands, when your widen and drop them you are actually confining your horse and he/she will brace against you. Usually when you see people lowering their hands down and wide its to help teach and get a stretch in walk or trot but the contact is light and not in a bracing matter,more inviting them tolifttheir tummy, use their back,step up and under through there hind end all while the regulating the power though the rythem in their seat and hips not through the reins.
So instead think hands together in front of the saddle, thumbs up and holding the reins.
Things that help me with this: arm swings and shoulder rolls, deep breaths while centering my head over my shoulders allowing them to realxe back and down. Elbows at your side your in front by a very small amount. When you do this you may find your reins feels long, keep a good steady, not firm but steady like your holding a small child's hand crossing a street. There should be no slack or looping through the reins, remember hands down together and in front! Hehe it's all very tricky to put and keep your body together! Iv been riding for 18+ years, worked with awesome trainers and horses but its still hard for me to keep it all up and together, sodont be discouraged, takes time and paitinace so keep up the good work, keep getting video of your riding and post it and I'm sure you will be improving!

For a self taught rider yours ing a darn awesome job!
I could go on and on with helpful tips and advice but I don't want to overwhelm you! Let me know if you want more!

Can't wait to see more pictures and video!
Sam
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I feel the same way when I get recorded,like really? Lol
I think you have a good start, your shoulders are back for the most part and your looking up. Two very good thing to support and balance your body when riding.

Things I see that could really help you:
Shorten those stirrups a bit. You want a good shoulder, hip to heel line. With shorter stirrups you can work on keeping a quieter lower leg and ot grip with your knees. When you shorten those stirrups work on putting the weight of your body down into your heels, then will help a ton but it takes time to build up that strength in your lower leg, you should work on getting up out of the saddle, dropping that weight intoyourheels, toes forward. This will create a string solid lower body support.

Exercises to help with getting strong with your lower leg position:
When your at home find a step and stand on the edge of the step, make sure your holding on to the wall in case you loose your balance (also best toxoid inyourriding boots but regular shoes will be fine too. Practice putting your heels down while keeping a slight bend in your knees. Stretch down for 10 seconds and back up to rest then back down, do it inshore reps a couple-few times a day if you can and when your feel like you can Goldie longer addon a few more seconds at a time. This will help build a strong blance from hip to heel. You can also do this on your adorable horse :) make sure your booty is up out of the saddle and just slit at the walk for a few strides then sit a few and go back up. The longer you hold this the stronger your lower leg will get and your get a good base support from your heels.

Remeber when doing this ON the horse to look up,keep that chest open (like you have a million dollar bra or a necklace that lays on your chest on) sounds silly but it works. At this point if you need to hold your self up for short periods of time with your hands on your horses neck that totally fine,just practice with hands off for short times too, this will start to really build your core tummy and back muscles up that you will be needing!

As for your hands, when your widen and drop them you are actually confining your horse and he/she will brace against you. Usually when you see people lowering their hands down and wide its to help teach and get a stretch in walk or trot but the contact is light and not in a bracing matter,more inviting them tolifttheir tummy, use their back,step up and under through there hind end all while the regulating the power though the rythem in their seat and hips not through the reins.
So instead think hands together in front of the saddle, thumbs up and holding the reins.
Things that help me with this: arm swings and shoulder rolls, deep breaths while centering my head over my shoulders allowing them to realxe back and down. Elbows at your side your in front by a very small amount. When you do this you may find your reins feels long, keep a good steady, not firm but steady like your holding a small child's hand crossing a street. There should be no slack or looping through the reins, remember hands down together and in front! Hehe it's all very tricky to put and keep your body together! Iv been riding for 18+ years, worked with awesome trainers and horses but its still hard for me to keep it all up and together, sodont be discouraged, takes time and paitinace so keep up the good work, keep getting video of your riding and post it and I'm sure you will be improving!

For a self taught rider yours ing a darn awesome job!
I could go on and on with helpful tips and advice but I don't want to overwhelm you! Let me know if you want more!

Can't wait to see more pictures and video!
Sam
First of all thank you so much. That was a extremely helpful post. Thank you over again and again.

Stirrups: Oh yes, I always feel uncomfortable when they are shorter, so I tend to have them to longer... Like, below my ankle bone when I head its supposed to be at your ankle bone... Ill shorten them though, for sure. I was defiantly noticing how my lower leg seems to be swinging around. It just seems when my stirrups are a few holes (1-2 holes) shorter, that I feel as if Im tipping forward... maybe because my lower leg isnt stable enough yet? Or... ?

I will be doing those exercises, on the horse, and off of him aswell. I think that having a stable lower leg would be quite a massive benefit :)

Hmm... I suppose that's the idea I was thinking that widening and lowering your arms did, make them lift their back, and use their hind, creating a naturally lowered head set, yes?

Thank you very much! How encouraging! And, that wasnt overwhelming at all. It was very much appreciated. If you would, I would love more advice and tips. Thank you so very much! I'll try to get another video of riding sometime this week to see how well I put the words in action ;)

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Let me watch the video again, and eat my dinner and ill come back and write you another novel hehehe
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Gee , that was a nice and detailed critique. I can't see enough to offer any real detail (you are so tiny in that video, need more close ups. Get a friend who can follow you with the camer and use zoom)

YOu mentioned that you feel you are moving , or driving, with your upper body. I sure can see that. I also see your lower leg getting in on the "pumping" I think you might be using your legs as a kind of leverage to pump with your upper body.

Are you doing this to try and maintain the active forwardness of the canter? It's better for you to let your legs just stay on the horse, kind of "hugging" her and following her ribcage, but NEVER pumping back and forth. The absorption of the mottion will come in your pelvis only. It will rock with the canter, your legs will only stay connected to the horse's sides. YOur upper body will stay upright . Pretty much all the action is in your core/pelvis , everything else is quiet and steady.

Going over the barrel, since your horse kind of pops over the barrel and keeps her head up up, you end up coming back down into the saddle too soon and bopping her back. I think she has come to expect this, and is even more hesitant to open up and bascule over the barrel. Putting down a pole about 3 feet before the barrel might encourage her to stretch out and jump longer, but you'll need to support that by staying out of the saddle through her landing.
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Klassic already covered the critique. Just wanted to say, love the dog!! I wasn't expecting it to look right into the camera. That was too funny...but then I'm easily amused.

You just have to see your distance...you don't have to like it.
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Now that would be sad if the OP ended up getting more comments on the dog than on her riding!

But he IS kind of cute.
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Gee , that was a nice and detailed critique. I can't see enough to offer any real detail (you are so tiny in that video, need more close ups. Get a friend who can follow you with the camer and use zoom)

YOu mentioned that you feel you are moving , or driving, with your upper body. I sure can see that. I also see your lower leg getting in on the "pumping" I think you might be using your legs as a kind of leverage to pump with your upper body.

Are you doing this to try and maintain the active forwardness of the canter? It's better for you to let your legs just stay on the horse, kind of "hugging" her and following her ribcage, but NEVER pumping back and forth. The absorption of the mottion will come in your pelvis only. It will rock with the canter, your legs will only stay connected to the horse's sides. YOur upper body will stay upright . Pretty much all the action is in your core/pelvis , everything else is quiet and steady.

Going over the barrel, since your horse kind of pops over the barrel and keeps her head up up, you end up coming back down into the saddle too soon and bopping her back. I think she has come to expect this, and is even more hesitant to open up and bascule over the barrel. Putting down a pole about 3 feet before the barrel might encourage her to stretch out and jump longer, but you'll need to support that by staying out of the saddle through her landing.
I must say, landing too soon, or too late over jumps has always, always been one of my biggest problems. I use to land too late, throwing myself way off balance. After working on that, I ended up landing to soon, this time throwing my horse off balance. Defiantly will be working on that. When I do set up ground poles, it for sure helps him with the jumping.
Thank you so much, I appreciate every last word




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Klassic already covered the critique. Just wanted to say, love the dog!! I wasn't expecting it to look right into the camera. That was too funny...but then I'm easily amused.
Baha, she was being annoying, and curious :P

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Now that would be sad if the OP ended up getting more comments on the dog than on her riding!

But he IS kind of cute.
LOL, I wouldnt mind :P The dog (abby) is in love with horses!

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