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        02-27-2011, 12:33 AM
      #1
    Foal
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    This is Flicka, 10 year old TWH/QH mare (Midnight Mack K and Doc Bar/Peppy bred. Odd mix, I know...)
    She is my trail horse who I would some day love to try saddle seat with. Give me a good critique on her, but do be mannerly because she is like my child. While I know she isn't perfect, I have my opinions on her conformation. I will try to not take offense to anything, seing as how I DID ask for a critique. So, if I say anything that could be taken as deffensive, here's a disclaimer and appology before hand. Lol.
    Anyhow...

    I know some of her faults:
    Front end isn't balanced with her hind end.
    Cow hocked slightly.
    Down hill a bit.
    Toes out in front a bit. Maybe? In the back, as well.
    Shoulder is a tad up?
    I've been told her back was long, but I don't see how that's possible. I had a saddle fitter look at her when I went to buy a saddle and she said she has a very short back, and long loin.


    So, here she is. This is an OLD picture from 2009 when she had a whole winter off, so she's a bit rough looking. It's the only one I have that has her squared, though.


    And a comparison pic from this year. She had a year off and had my colt, and has been starting back in work.
    Parked out and telling me she wants me to get lost. Lol.
         
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        02-27-2011, 02:11 AM
      #2
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    I critiqued your horse before, didn't I? Or was that just a comment thread? I do remember her.

    She is built very nicely. Her neck and shoulders are very nice. Good hocks and pretty good hind quarters. Her "underline" is not strong. Meaning, her abdominal muscles and the muscles in her loin area don't seem very strong, so her back kind of sags. You will want to work her up and down hills, over trotting poles and such to stregnthen those areas, especialy if she is ridden saddle seat. (because the saddle sits further back and puts a bit more pressure on a less strong point of the spine.
    Did she make a pretty baby?
         
        02-27-2011, 02:18 AM
      #3
    Foal
    First off I totally understand the whole "like a child" thing and everything I say is my opinion and I mean it in the nicest of ways.

    I think Flicka is an overall wonderful horse. I do agree with you that her front end is inbalanced with her hind end. I can't exactly pin point if it's that her head is a bit to small and/or if her neck is a bit to long. Also, I can't exactly tell from the pictures, but her neck might be to "straight," and not have the slight curve it that is considered "good conformation."

    Her eyes and nostrils are wide which is great. I don't agree that she has a long back, I think her back is short (which is wondeful), and that her loin is a bit long.

    She appears to have a good hind leg. I can't tell if her toes are out, nor if she is cowhocked from these pictures, but it doesn't seem like she is (and if she is, it's not bad at all).

    The shoulder can be up a tad more, but that's a slight problem because it's not very short at all, and it slopes which is good. She is downhill, but not bad at all.

    It could just be me, but it seems like her front pasterns a a tiny bit too sloped (it seems it more in the second pic then the first though so I don't know). If I am right about the pasterns then she might be a little camped out in front.

    Sorry this is so long and what an adorable horse!
         
        02-27-2011, 02:39 AM
      #4
    Foal
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    I critiqued your horse before, didn't I? Or was that just a comment thread? I do remember her.

    She is built very nicely. Her neck and shoulders are very nice. Good hocks and pretty good hind quarters. Her "underline" is not strong. Meaning, her abdominal muscles and the muscles in her loin area don't seem very strong, so her back kind of sags. You will want to work her up and down hills, over trotting poles and such to stregnthen those areas, especialy if she is ridden saddle seat. (because the saddle sits further back and puts a bit more pressure on a less strong point of the spine.
    Did she make a pretty baby?
    You didn't critique, just commented on her. It was the one where you wanted to use the pic of her extending her neck. But, thank you! I will work on her abdominals now that I know that.

    Of course she had a pretty baby!! Lol. Now you just asked for me to bring out the zillions of pics of him to brag about. Lol. He is my 'grandchild', btw. Lol.

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    First off I totally understand the whole "like a child" thing and everything I say is my opinion and I mean it in the nicest of ways.

    I think Flicka is an overall wonderful horse. I do agree with you that her front end is inbalanced with her hind end. I can't exactly pin point if it's that her head is a bit to small and/or if her neck is a bit to long. Also, I can't exactly tell from the pictures, but her neck might be to "straight," and not have the slight curve it that is considered "good conformation."

    Her eyes and nostrils are wide which is great. I don't agree that she has a long back, I think her back is short (which is wondeful), and that her loin is a bit long.

    She appears to have a good hind leg. I can't tell if her toes are out, nor if she is cowhocked from these pictures, but it doesn't seem like she is (and if she is, it's not bad at all).

    The shoulder can be up a tad more, but that's a slight problem because it's not very short at all, and it slopes which is good. She is downhill, but not bad at all.

    It could just be me, but it seems like her front pasterns a a tiny bit too sloped (it seems it more in the second pic then the first though so I don't know). If I am right about the pasterns then she might be a little camped out in front.

    Sorry this is so long and what an adorable horse!
    Thank you. :)
    She does have a long neck, but I loooooove that, soo..... can't say I would claim that as a 'fault' or not... And- I'm not making exscuses, I swear, lol- but, like I said, she's been out of work for a while. It looks better. She honestly does have a big ole' noggin, though. It's pretty long, typical Walking Horse style. You saying it's small is a compliment to her. Lol. "I" think her front end is just bigger/ more heavily muscled than her back end, and that's what makes her unbalanced. She can't be 'split into 3 equal parts' quite perfectly.

    I think her pasterns are a bit long, too. I've always wondered if I was the only one that thought so, you are the first to see that. And I think, if anything, she may be a tweeny bit camped under.

    Thanks you guys for being nice AND being honest at the same time. I have to say I'm not use to that from people over the internet. Lol
         
        02-27-2011, 02:53 AM
      #5
    Foal
    Tinyliny, here's a pic of my wee baby, Ninja, just so you can see him AGAIN. The only big problem I have with his confo (so far) is his neck. I'm not too happy about the way it's looking right now, since his sires neck was exceptional. A few big time TWH breeders I know that I've shown him to have said his neck should turn out pretty nice, since the nice neck and head run strong in his TWH bloodline (Midnight Mack K and Ebony Masterpiece).
    (Last Saturday, 9 m/o.)
         
        02-27-2011, 04:13 AM
      #6
    Super Moderator
    I have the hardest time seeing correct conformation in a foal or a yearling. They are just so awkward. And, he's like a shag rug, too.

    I think that he will turn out to be quite lovely. I don't even try to critique babies. I would not know what to say.
         
        02-27-2011, 09:27 AM
      #7
    Foal
    You can just say he's the most perfect baby you've ever seen. Lol ;)
    He is shaggy. Like 3 inches of hair on the little beast. Lol.
         
        02-28-2011, 07:05 PM
      #8
    Foal
    He is such a handsome baby! I love him!
         
        02-28-2011, 07:46 PM
      #9
    Foal
    Thank you. :) I think so too. Lol.

    So, bumping up. Anymore critiques?
         
        03-02-2011, 07:46 PM
      #10
    Foal
    Ok. So I have 142 views on this thread and two critiques. Lol. Bumping up one last time.
         

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