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post #21 of 36 Old 04-26-2010, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by bellatink89 View Post
lmfao. you guys crack me up. BYE!
Bye, sorry to see you go.

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oh btw cinnys winny - im a trailguide.
Oh hello again!! Going to take our advice now? Or are we just far too laughable when we care about your horses health? Shuckeys darn.
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post #22 of 36 Old 04-26-2010, 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by bellatink89 View Post
lmao she is ridden at least 5 hours a day 6 days a week and gets a 1/4 pound of patriot pellets a day. we joke all the time that she looks like shes in foal. she loses some of it in the summer but for the most part she keeps most of that belly. thanks though :o) the vet said he wouldnt want her to lose very much weight because its just "her"

Really? I don't want to be a downer, but she has zero actual muscle tone's ALL 'chub'...a good way to tell is if the horse lacks any real 'figure'...


My mum's QH gelding (the sorrel here) is overweight and undermuscled: note how you can't really tell where his shoulder/elbow ties in with his girth, or where the end of his barrel ties into his flank and hind all just kind of 'oozes together'...that's a HUGE sign that a horse is overweight. A horse with a cresty neck that isn't a breed known for it, is overweight...such breeds are Morgans, Lippizanners, and other spanish bred horses, as well as some drafts. Stallions are also usually the ones who will have a crest, not mares.

My mare, who is in decent weight, and has a good muscle tone, even though she wasn't really in work at this point...Note how easily you can see all three 'divisions'...shoulder, barrel, hind quarter.

and again...undermuscled, but definitely not overweight...

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post #23 of 36 Old 04-26-2010, 08:12 PM
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Your vet told you she doesn't need to lose weight? Are you kidding? She's HUGE. Her neck is REALLY cresty, you know that's a sign of founder? Her legs are pretty refined, and she is bearing a lot of extra weight. How long do you expect her to go before she runs into all sorts of lameness issues because she's so **** fat? You made the thread about fat riders and putting too much strain on a horse. What makes you think a fat horse isn't putting too much strain on itself? The fat rider at least gets off. The fat horse carries around its fat 24/7.

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post #24 of 36 Old 04-26-2010, 08:21 PM
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Is she on turn out? Have you thought about one of these? I think she is very cute, btw.

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post #25 of 36 Old 04-26-2010, 08:24 PM
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Honestly, your mare is very cute, but she would look much better if she lost some weight and gained some muscle. No good vet would actually RECOMMEND that you keep your horse fat, just like no good vet would recommend you keep a horse thin. Neither is healthy. Just because most people keep their horses a little plump doesn't mean it's right. I, for one, keep my mare in shape. Very good shape. She shouldn't jiggle when she walks. I shouldn't see her sides jutting out when looking at her from the front or the back. Her belly should not drop down lower than the girth, and should rise up to "point" at the base of her tail. She's fed very well, and she's worked regularly. Good work that's actually beneficial. Another comparison for you.

In her prime, this last summer.

Due to a lameness issue, she's been off for the last two-ish months, but she is by no means fat. This is from a few days ago.

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post #26 of 36 Old 04-26-2010, 11:46 PM
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Ricci, I never realized till I read one of your other posts today, that your mare is in her 20's? She looks fabulous...I think her spring pic is better than her 'fit and trim' pic though...I don't like quite so much angularity to the hind quarter...just tighten up her muscle a bit, and she will look fantastic this summer

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post #27 of 36 Old 04-27-2010, 10:52 AM
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This is my girl a week after having a baby. But notice how she's not fat anywhere else?

Your mare has a scary resemblance. Having worked at a vet clinic, and as a vet tech, i cannot tell you how important it is to monitor an animals weight. There is a study we would quote to clients about black labs. The black labs kept at a trim/decent weight lived literally 2 years longer on average than the ones that were allowed to become over weight. 2 years in dog years is a lot. Please, think about that seriously.

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post #28 of 36 Old 04-27-2010, 10:54 AM
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Your mare is adorable, absolutely darling.
But agreed with others, shes got a bit too much extra baggage. If extra baggage on horses didn't cause any problems I wouldn't even say anything, but I agree with SUJ, maybe a good muzzle is in order :]
She's cute nontheless!
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post #29 of 36 Old 04-27-2010, 11:31 AM
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I'm going to get flamed for this...but I don't think she's obese. A little overweight...yes. I agree that getting a blood titre on her is a good idea and a great baseline to have for any horse. That being said...I have a QH gelding that perpetually looks like a broodmare. He gets fat off of air and has never lost the "belly" despite at one point him dropping weight due to poor hay quality and he became sunken in over his topline, hips and shoulder and yet still looked pregnant. He has more muscle tone than your mare but I have had many people tell me he is obese as well and yet my vet who knows him will tell me that they think he shouldn't drop anymore weight and everyone around them goes REALLY? He's HUGE!! That being said I also recently worked with a Morgan/QH cross and she did not muscle like a horse normally would. She was underweight and ribby with a bit of a crest to her neck and sunken hips and a tucked underline when she came to me. After a summer of grass, straight oats and A LOT of under saddle work she looked like a little porker. She muscled up A LOT all over her hindquarters and her shoulder, her back became a nice couch and the crest on her neck kept getting bigger as we added muscle to her topline and started doing long trail rides and a lot of hill and trot work. We were concerned about her new "build" and the vet assured us that her breeding and her work level was fine and she was within normal ranges for HER. She was a 14.2 Morgan/QH pony that was at least 1100 pounds and stood on good strong legs.

So...if your vet thinks that your mare is an acceptable weight and her blood results come back in the normal ranges I would carry on as you were. I wouldn't let her get any heavier but I know that horses with the "bulldog" body style can be misleading and as long as a qualified vet thinks your horse is healthy then just smile and nod to those that think otherwise.

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OP!! I used to have a horse that looked just like that (same body type)!!!!

I got him for free!!!!!! Wanna know why??

Cause he had been allowed to gain that much weight that he foundered, and the people were leaving him outside in a big field, and they figured if he died he might rot into their watertable before they could find his dead carcass!! Pretty, isn't it? He's a registered Morgan from very nice bloodlines.
So guess what? Your horse might be fine now, but she ain't gonna be much longer. It cost me over $2000 to save the life of my horse, eleven years ago, and he's still unrideable. I feed him expensive feed, spend tons of money making life acceptable, and have fun with a pasture puff.

You can hate us all you want but for God's sake don't punish your horse for it.

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