Critique Our Outline! :] - Page 2
 
 

       The Horse Forum > Riding Horses > Horse Riding Critique

Critique Our Outline! :]

This is a discussion on Critique Our Outline! :] within the Horse Riding Critique forums, part of the Riding Horses category
  • Outline of a horse

 
LinkBack Thread Tools
    02-16-2011, 06:01 PM
  #11
Foal
He looks like a lovely boy and you seem to be a rider with a lot of potential!

What I think is wrong here is not understanding what an 'outline' is. There are times where your horse drops his head...this good be because he is relaxed (good!) or because he is evading being pulled in the mouth (bad!). When we ask our horses for an outline it actually has very little to do with the head, and much to do with the back and HQ. It is hard to measure impulsion in slo-mo, but it does look as if he is quite happy to shuffle along without working too hard, like most horses do! A frame is created by a forward aid being ridden into a restraining aid...asking the power to come from behind and up through his back...by default the head will drop.

At your level I would work on getting a steady contact and working on nice bends and straight lines - if you look at around 0:51 you are coming around a corner flexed to the outside. That will throw off his balance and he won't be able to engage his back effectively. Once you are able to get him moving straight and rythmically he will be able to give you much more!

Would love to see your video after tonight :)
     
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
    02-16-2011, 06:21 PM
  #12
Super Moderator
Grace,

I appreciate your explanation of the horse and your being more involved in keeping him on a circle and such. He sounds like a really nice lesson horse, and you are lucky.

I think I mentioned in my original post the by having more contact and shorter reins you would better be able to follow his mouth and thus keep the contact constant. That's what is really important; solid and constant contact . As you get better, within that steady contact you will have variations of more or less resistance on the rein, but you won't go to loose unless you are taking a relax break after he is particularly good about something.

When I took dressage lessons my instructor made me work for weeks at a walk just following the hrose's mouth. I started out following passively, like almost literally letting him go where he wanted and my job was to just keep my contact to his mouth always the same.
Then we moved on to getting him to go in a circle and have a bit of flexion of the jaw towrad the inside 0 (not worrying about a total bend so no real leg on yet) and me following. Then we went to bend to inside and me asking the horse to stretch forward (follow him down) and pick him back up (follow him up) all NEVER letting the rein loop and never getting overly tight and never losing the flexion of the jaw to the inside. ALL at walk. I never got to trot for weeks until I could keep good steady contact, keep a small bend to inside and stretch and contract my horse longitudinally .
Then we worked on all that at the trot which is a zillion times harder.

Your seat is pretty steady now and once you get the feel for following the mouth AND getting steady flexion, (do this at WALK) you will probably find it pretty easy to transfer to trot and I bet your horse will get over his anxiety about contact when he sees that your hand is steady and trustworthy.
You've been a peach about accepting advice.
     
    02-16-2011, 09:01 PM
  #13
Weanling
Unfortunately I didn't get any videos of tonights lesson because it wouldn't be a good lesson to critique at all. It was scary windy, he was skitish and kept starting at things, as well as wanted to GO. Haha. So yeah. It was...interesting.... I worked on following his mouth though and it helped, and one of my trainers is trying to rework my posting trot so I don't lean forward, and that helped quite a bit. Helped him balance up and calm down and not become a speed demon lol.
Posted via Mobile Device
     

Quick Reply
Please help keep the Horse Forum enjoyable by reporting rude posts.
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the The Horse Forum forums, you must first register.

Already have a Horse Forum account?
Members are allowed only one account per person at the Horse Forum, so if you've made an account here in the past you'll need to continue using that account. Please do not create a new account or you may lose access to the Horse Forum. If you need help recovering your existing account, please Contact Us. We'll be glad to help!

New to the Horse Forum?
Please choose a username you will be satisfied with using for the duration of your membership at the Horse Forum. We do not change members' usernames upon request because that would make it difficult for everyone to keep track of who is who on the forum. For that reason, please do not incorporate your horse's name into your username so that you are not stuck with a username related to a horse you may no longer have some day, or use any other username you may no longer identify with or care for in the future.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.


Old Thread Warning
This thread is more than 90 days old. When a thread is this old, it is often better to start a new thread rather than post to it. However, If you feel you have something of value to add to this particular thread, you can do so by checking the box below before submitting your post.

Thread Tools

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Collection/Outline RidingTowardsGrace English Riding 6 12-15-2010 12:56 AM
Working in an outline? PonyMad English Riding 7 11-27-2010 05:42 PM
HELP - Working in an outline!! smophie Horse Training 1 08-01-2010 11:30 PM
problem stopping in outline! MaggiStar Horse Training 4 03-28-2010 09:19 AM
horses outline horsecrazy15 Horse Training 2 02-10-2007 03:39 PM



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:25 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0