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        07-13-2011, 12:52 AM
      #21
    Yearling
    He looks like he's going to be quite small.

    Sometimes, owners won't register a horse when the parents are registered because they didn't like the quality of the colt. Personally, I won't buy grade--you don't ride papers, but they often help the horse get a better home once it moves on from you. And the training is worth more--if you train a grade horse to the nines, you still can only get maybe 1000-2000 for it. But a registered horse that can go to breed shows will get a lot more.


    Low priced grades (100-700) as well as OTTB sell well around here because there are sooo meny Registered horses selling for higher prices. There is very few registered horses going for under 1000.


    In Ocala Fl? Really? That's a pretty big assumption. Just because the people you know are buying grades/OTTBs doesn't mean they sell better then the registered horses. Quite the opposite... all around the world.
         
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        07-13-2011, 12:57 AM
      #22
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mayfieldk    
    He looks like he's going to be quite small.

    Sometimes, owners won't register a horse when the parents are registered because they didn't like the quality of the colt. Personally, I won't buy grade--you don't ride papers, but they often help the horse get a better home once it moves on from you. And the training is worth more--if you train a grade horse to the nines, you still can only get maybe 1000-2000 for it. But a registered horse that can go to breed shows will get a lot more.


    Low priced grades (100-700) as well as OTTB sell well around here because there are sooo meny Registered horses selling for higher prices. There is very few registered horses going for under 1000.

    In Ocala Fl? Really? That's a pretty big assumption. Just because the people you know are buying grades/OTTBs doesn't mean they sell better then the registered horses. Quite the opposite... all around the world.
    I don't know meny people with horses. I just keep up with the horse market.
         
        07-13-2011, 01:07 AM
      #23
    Yearling
    No offense, but Ocala has a huge market for five and six figure horses. There are grades everywhere, and they tend to sell everywhere... but not always to good homes. Many people buy them because they are cheap, then realize they know nothing about horses. Happens all the time, and a lot of well-minding people get hurt this way. (Not saying you, just that this is how the grade horse market works).
         
        07-20-2011, 04:48 AM
      #24
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mayfieldk    
    if you train a grade horse to the nines, you still can only get maybe 1000-2000 for it. But a registered horse that can go to breed shows will get a lot more.
    Umm I can see both sides. Where I am from there are actually some registered horses going for cheaper then some grades! Here it more matters on the training, experience and ability. Yes having a registered horse is great because then you have the breed shows, but for what ever reason that doesn’t seem to be the biggest concern where I am. Training and experience are the main concerns.
    Last year at a show two men started arguing about who got to buy my friend’s gelding. He is an older (15-18ish) grade horse with a bit of a club foot, but he is an amazing jumper and some how with his long lanky legs turns those barrels very well. One of the men offered her $8k on the spot! She told them her horse wasn‘t for sale!! O.O
    So well trained grade horses can go for more then $2k. It is pretty common for that to happen here. All depends on where you want to go. Many people here mainly aim for HSR and other rodeos so papers are not top priority, ability is. Then many of the jumping shows around this area do not require your horse to be registered.
    Now for an untrained grade horse with minimal to no ground work you are looking at $800-$1000 where I live.

    Its interesting to see how the horse market is in different places though :)
         
        07-20-2011, 07:56 AM
      #25
    Trained
    Both my horses are what I guess you would consider "grade" - I don't have Monty's papers and he is still registered in his breeder's name, she won't transfer ownership. He is registered, and I could obtain photocopies of his papers, but the real thing would be nice. My filly isn't registered anywhere and I don't know if she can be. I don't care, though I did manage to pick them both up quite cheap for the quality they are (and the education Monty has). Here, registered horses sell for more because of bragging rights. That thar horsey is a registered whatever, that means it MUST be better than an unregistered horse. The exception to that is TB's and Standardbreds, because they are a dime a dozen and the majority aren't very good quality.

    That said, a young, educated horse with proven results in the show ring is worth money whether it's registered or not.
         
        07-20-2011, 11:22 AM
      #26
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by blue eyed pony    
    Both my horses are what I guess you would consider "grade" - I don't have Monty's papers and he is still registered in his breeder's name, she won't transfer ownership. He is registered, and I could obtain photocopies of his papers, but the real thing would be nice. My filly isn't registered anywhere and I don't know if she can be. I don't care, though I did manage to pick them both up quite cheap for the quality they are (and the education Monty has). Here, registered horses sell for more because of bragging rights. That thar horsey is a registered whatever, that means it MUST be better than an unregistered horse. The exception to that is TB's and Standardbreds, because they are a dime a dozen and the majority aren't very good quality.

    That said, a young, educated horse with proven results in the show ring is worth money whether it's registered or not.
    Yes that is correct. Registered doesn’t always mean better and doesn’t ALWAYS mean more marketable. Where I live there is a pretty decent market for both registered and grade horses and the majority, whether registered or not, can easily sell upwards of $2k if they have a good strong foundation in training and are trail safe.
    I personally would prefer training, experience, and ability rather then just a horse that is papered, and if I am not aiming for breed specific shows or breeding then I would probably go for the grade horse that could be equal in every other way to the registered horse. You can get an amazing horse at a great deal.
         
        07-20-2011, 10:31 PM
      #27
    Trained
    I did that with Monty. Picked up a seasoned, experienced eventer for $2k! The average horse his age that has his experience sells for a heck of a lot more, even in this market I'd be looking at spending at least $5k if I wanted something young, experienced, talented and registered. He is 15 going on 16 though, considered "over the hill" by most people who are willing to spend big money, and he has lots of scars and a few other blemishes because of the neglect he suffered two owners ago (the lady I got him off rescued him).

    I don't actually know why my filly was as cheap as she was. I could understand her being $2k, but I only paid half that. She came along just as I was looking and IMO it was meant to be. She's going to be a chunky monkey so whether she only reaches 14.2hh or grows to 17hh I'll be a good size for her no matter what.
         

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