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        10-27-2009, 07:43 PM
      #11
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by FoxyRoxy1507    
    ive seen quite a few unbranded Hanos go for that price lately depending on their locaiton and there was nothing wrong with them
    If they aren't branded - they usually aren't actually Hanoverians.

    In order for a horse to be actually a Hanoverian, their parents must both me in the Hanoverian studbook and they must be registered - and branded.

    It is possible to have a horse with a registered Hanoverian sire and dam that is unregisterable with the Hanoverian Verband. Therefore they are not Hanoverians, they are warmbloods.

    *petpeeve* sorry.
         
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        10-28-2009, 01:01 AM
      #12
    Foal
    I agree with most of what's been said....he's lovely but seems too good to be true!
    I'd ask for his papers, a full vet history and a complete pre-purchase exam. It could be that you just got really really lucky in finding this guy, but most likely there's something they're not telling you.
         
        10-28-2009, 08:34 AM
      #13
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ~*~anebel~*~    
    If they aren't branded - they usually aren't actually Hanoverians.

    In order for a horse to be actually a Hanoverian, their parents must both me in the Hanoverian studbook and they must be registered - and branded.

    It is possible to have a horse with a registered Hanoverian sire and dam that is unregisterable with the Hanoverian Verband. Therefore they are not Hanoverians, they are warmbloods.

    *petpeeve* sorry.

    Just bc something isnt registered doesnt make it not what it is! Good lord, mayb someone didnt want to pay the fees to get it registered or doesnt care if its registered or not... an I have had a Hanovarian that was not registered but his parents were! The only reason he was not was bc he was too much to handle and the old owners were scared of him so they never took him to the inspection
         
        10-28-2009, 10:11 AM
      #14
    Banned
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Lucara    
    I'm kind of curious as to why she never sat through his canter? She braced herself the whole time.
    I am not seeing what you are seeing.

    The rider in the video rides like a typical hunter type rider does. No bracing, just kind of a half seat.


    For his price he might be worth a try. Be sure to spend the money on a good PPE.
         
        10-28-2009, 12:39 PM
      #15
    Foal
    The other horse in the ring is swishing his tail alot just standing there. I'd bet flies too!
         
        10-28-2009, 01:35 PM
      #16
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by FoxyRoxy1507    
    just bc something isnt registered doesnt make it not what it is! Good lord, mayb someone didnt want to pay the fees to get it registered or doesnt care if its registered or not... an I have had a Hanovarian that was not registered but his parents were! The only reason he was not was bc he was too much to handle and the old owners were scared of him so they never took him to the inspection
    Well then your horse isn't a Hanoverian, is it.
    Plain and simple.
    It also doesn't matter if his parents were registered - they needed to be in the studbook. And if they weren't then the foal couldn't be a Hanoverian anyways, despite if the breeder had taken it to an inspection and paid fees or not.
         
        10-28-2009, 01:51 PM
      #17
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ~*~anebel~*~    
    Well then your horse isn't a Hanoverian, is it.
    Plain and simple.
    It also doesn't matter if his parents were registered - they needed to be in the studbook. And if they weren't then the foal couldn't be a Hanoverian anyways, despite if the breeder had taken it to an inspection and paid fees or not.

    That is so absolutely ridiculous, a horse doesnt have to be registered to b the breed it is... basically what ur saying is that just bc a dog isnt registered than it isnt a dog! Wow... i'm going to stop talking to you now bc you have the most ridiculous views on things and yes my horse was a Hanovarian which is a breed and a registry.... was he a registered Hano... no, was he of the Hanovarian BREED which is a BREED of horse yes he was!

    That's the same thing as saying all the TB or Arabians or any other type of horse in the world that isnt registered isnt the breed it is!!!!

    Good lord what has the world coming, i'm going to need to go tell all my dogs they arent dogs and both my TB's they arent TB's bc they arent registered
         
        10-28-2009, 02:05 PM
      #18
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by FoxyRoxy1507    
    that is so absolutely ridiculous, a horse doesnt have to be registered to b the breed it is... basically what ur saying is that just bc a dog isnt registered than it isnt a dog! Wow... i'm going to stop talking to you now bc you have the most ridiculous views on things and yes my horse was a Hanovarian which is a breed and a registry.... was he a registered Hano... no, was he of the Hanovarian BREED which is a BREED of horse yes he was!

    That's the same thing as saying all the TB or Arabians or any other type of horse in the world that isnt registered isnt the breed it is!!!!

    Good lord what has the world coming, i'm going to need to go tell all my dogs they arent dogs and both my TB's they arent TB's bc they arent registered
    In order for a horse to be a certain breed, they must belong to that registry. Same with dogs. You can't sell an animal to be a certain breed and not have the registry papers to back it up. If someone is selling me a Jack Russel Terrier, I expect it to have Jack Russell Terrier papers. Or else it is just a small, hyper dog with Jack Russell characteristics.
    The dog is still a dog (there is no such thing as an animal registry? So I don't know what you are going on about there...) it is just not a breed of dog, it is a mutt. Your "thoroughbreds" however, would not be considered thoroughbreds because you don't have papers to back it up. Were you to sell them you could advertise them as "TB type" or "grade". If you were to advertise them as thoroughbreds, it would be misrepresentation because you don't have legal documents to back up your statement.
    Same with a Hanoverian. If it is not in the registry with legal documents to back up it's heritage then it's not a Hanoverian! It might be a warmblood, a warmblood cross, and yes it probably has Hanoverians in its lineage, but that doesn't make it a Hanoverian.

    And PS, if you "own a Hanoverian" then could you at least spell the breed name correctly??
         
        10-28-2009, 03:24 PM
      #19
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ~*~anebel~*~    
    In order for a horse to be a certain breed, they must belong to that registry. Same with dogs. You can't sell an animal to be a certain breed and not have the registry papers to back it up. If someone is selling me a Jack Russel Terrier, I expect it to have Jack Russell Terrier papers. Or else it is just a small, hyper dog with Jack Russell characteristics.
    The dog is still a dog (there is no such thing as an animal registry? So I don't know what you are going on about there...) it is just not a breed of dog, it is a mutt. Your "thoroughbreds" however, would not be considered thoroughbreds because you don't have papers to back it up. Were you to sell them you could advertise them as "TB type" or "grade". If you were to advertise them as thoroughbreds, it would be misrepresentation because you don't have legal documents to back up your statement.
    Same with a Hanoverian. If it is not in the registry with legal documents to back up it's heritage then it's not a Hanoverian! It might be a warmblood, a warmblood cross, and yes it probably has Hanoverians in its lineage, but that doesn't make it a Hanoverian.

    And PS, if you "own a Hanoverian" then could you at least spell the breed name correctly??

    Omg whatever i'm so done bc ur acting like a ridiculous snob! And I didnt spell it right bc I was in a hurry and i'm at work good lord whatever.

    To the OP good luck I think he is a cute HANOVERIAN! Just bc it doesnt have papers doesnt mean its not what it is!
         

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