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    03-17-2009, 10:12 PM
He isn't my horse, they put the standing martingale on him, not me.
But he does tend to overjump a ton, so. . I dunno.
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    03-17-2009, 10:15 PM
He's ridden with plently of breaks for AT MOST two hours a day.
He is usaully completely fine with jumping.
We never take him over 2'9, and haven't done anything over 2'6 with him since the day this picture was taken..
The martingale helps him a lot. Again, he isn't my horse. I just school him once to twice a week and I can assure you, he's very happy most of the lesson when I ride him. If I think he's having truoble, I just stop.
The highest I ever take him in 2'3.. He can get himself over the jumps, and we're working on his form. .
Maybe I should just close this thread..
I'd rather not be yelled at,
I just asked for critique-
But if you'd like to tell me how to help FIX his form in some way that doesn't involve removing the martingale, I'd appreciate it. =]
Originally Posted by CJ82Sky    
You say a martingale is necessary when riding him b/c he bucks and runs off which tells me it's either 1. A training issue or 2. A pain issue. Either/or NO horse NEEDS a standing martingale. I'd seriously reevaluate that....

As for him being an ex show horse, idc what he was, I know that NOW in that picture his form is incredibly sloppy and the rider is inhibiting his ability to jump, and the martingale is just making matters worse. He's certainly not ready for anything higher than 2', regardless of what he may or may have not done in the past. And if he has a breathing issue that causes him to not be happy when jumping then I STRONGLY suggest that you reconsider if jumping is truly in this horse's best interest...
    03-17-2009, 10:17 PM
Overjumping isn't corrected with a martingale. First, it's caused by lack of proper muscling/training to accomplish the task at hand - the jump - with proper balance and impulsion. As a result, the undermuscled/trained horse will literally throw their bodies over the fences. The martingale will simply work to prevent the horse from throwing their head without actually CORRECTING anything. Hope this helps.
    03-17-2009, 10:19 PM
I explained how to fix his form and balance issues in the original reply that I typed on page one. I discussed grids and what not, however all of these should be done sans martingale. If you're going to continue to ride him in a martingale, then the issue will not be able to be fixed as the martingale will prevent the horse from properly using himself, especially when it's adjusted so tight as it is in the picture you had posted. No one here is yelling at you - we are all trying to help, however that's a bit hard when every reply to reply to with why you won't do what is suggested for the most part.
    03-17-2009, 10:20 PM
Only had him for about six months. All we know about his backround was that his owners were fairly inresponsible and that he was a show horse.
He only bucks/bolts when he's being ridden down trails.. up is no problem, though. If the gate is open, he flys out of the ring and won't stop until A) he's thrown his rider off or B) he's back at the stable.
I'm going to ask about removing the martingale..
    03-17-2009, 10:48 PM
Just another word about the pic...
His martingale looks too short. It needs lengthened by quite a bit...
    03-17-2009, 10:58 PM
It fits him pretty well.. he has a short kneck.
    03-17-2009, 11:05 PM
The pic makes it look to short though. When he's standing, take your hand it press the loop in the martingale up to his throatlatch. If it reaches and isnt too tight or loose you know it fits.

    03-17-2009, 11:15 PM
Would it be possible to ask if you could put a running martingale on him? At least then he will be able to stretch his neck out over the jump to help balance himself. It's what I put on ym arab when other people jump him, and it works very well.
    03-17-2009, 11:19 PM
I was also going to suggest that. If you feel that you HAVE to use a martingale, use a running one. Remember your rein stops though!

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