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    09-10-2010, 08:25 PM
  #1
Weanling
Critique Zippie AQHA/APHA Gelding

Hey guys:)
Critique me and my horse please. Say Whatever, I would really appreciate it.
Some background info on him- He is 13 years old, his registered name is continental Zip. He is my little show horse. 15.2 hh. Used to be a halter horse and was 2nd in the nation. Has won some championships and reserves, top fives and tens at paint and pinto worlds. Going to either Paint or pinto worlds 2011. So we need to get ready!! Lol

This video was after a lot of rain, so he hadnt been ridden for a few days- also, if you notice I did have to drop my irons
     
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    09-10-2010, 09:49 PM
  #2
Weanling
Okay, what I saw. In english, I would suggest actually having rein contact. If I were an english judge, I would expect the rider to have a proper contact with your horses head. Your reins are very lose. Your hands are also unsteady, and you have piano hands. I don't have much critique for western, just that his lope looks a little akward. But I can't put my finger on it.
WOW. Worlds? That's nuts. You have to tell us how that goes. How long have you had your beautiful horse? Looks like a really well trained boy.
     
    09-10-2010, 10:25 PM
  #3
Yearling
Agreed with the piano hands- one thing I noticed with English was that, in one point of the video, you start see-sawing with your hands- pulling them this way & that. Just wondering what you were doing and why- in my area, this is how a LOT of people train mostly Western Pleasure horses to set their head 'English', and while I'm not going to comment on *why* it's improper, I'll say that it's not the correct way to set their head, and you may be marked down for it in an English show ring. (It's about 0:10-0:11 in the video.) For English, your upper leg stays put (other than the stirrup-less parts, of course), though your lower leg looks a little unsteady- it's not awful, just a little wobbly here & there. I agree that you should probably take more contact with the bit for English.

I won't pretend to know enough about Western to critique that. Congrats about Worlds, and be sure to post plenty of videos and pictures, as well as letting us know how it goes. I'm sure you're very excited!

I'll leave the rest of the critique to the masters. :)

Edit: Also noticed- I realize there's a reason you are wearing spurs, but be very careful when riding English in spurs- every time your lower leg wobbles, you nudge your horse, and he could easily become numb-sided from it. Just a little added tip- I'm sure you know that already, but pointing it out in the offhand chance you don't. :)
     
    09-10-2010, 11:14 PM
  #4
Yearling
Lovely gait and confo.
     
    09-10-2010, 11:21 PM
  #5
Weanling
Quote:
Originally Posted by xoSonnyLove1234    
Okay, what I saw. In english, I would suggest actually having rein contact. If I were an english judge, I would expect the rider to have a proper contact with your horses head. Your reins are very lose. Your hands are also unsteady, and you have piano hands. I don't have much critique for western, just that his lope looks a little akward. But I can't put my finger on it.
WOW. Worlds? That's nuts. You have to tell us how that goes. How long have you had your beautiful horse? Looks like a really well trained boy.
Yes, I definitely agree with the hands and rein contact, and I must say, I have lately been using more contact. I do have piano hands, and im working on fixing them. I definitely will tell you how it goes. Im excited because I didnt get to go last year:( I've had him for 6 years. And thankyou for the critique
     
    09-10-2010, 11:23 PM
  #6
Weanling
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Originally Posted by horseluver2435    
Agreed with the piano hands- one thing I noticed with English was that, in one point of the video, you start see-sawing with your hands- pulling them this way & that. Just wondering what you were doing and why- in my area, this is how a LOT of people train mostly Western Pleasure horses to set their head 'English', and while I'm not going to comment on *why* it's improper, I'll say that it's not the correct way to set their head, and you may be marked down for it in an English show ring. (It's about 0:10-0:11 in the video.) For English, your upper leg stays put (other than the stirrup-less parts, of course), though your lower leg looks a little unsteady- it's not awful, just a little wobbly here & there. I agree that you should probably take more contact with the bit for English.

I won't pretend to know enough about Western to critique that. Congrats about Worlds, and be sure to post plenty of videos and pictures, as well as letting us know how it goes. I'm sure you're very excited!

I'll leave the rest of the critique to the masters. :)

Edit: Also noticed- I realize there's a reason you are wearing spurs, but be very careful when riding English in spurs- every time your lower leg wobbles, you nudge your horse, and he could easily become numb-sided from it. Just a little added tip- I'm sure you know that already, but pointing it out in the offhand chance you don't. :)
thanks for the great critique! Im an english show ring we really don't see saw, because we will get marked down. Though out of the ring I do, in some ways to push himself into the bit and extend his stride, with leg contact. Ill post a new video soon! And thankyou
     
    09-10-2010, 11:33 PM
  #7
Green Broke
English-- Keep your hands even. One hand keeps dropping lower then the other. Close your fingers up on the reins. You should maybe take your stirrups up one hole so that you can have your heel down just a little bit more. They are pretty flat right now. You also post really high...like almost over the pommel. You shouldnt be having to work so hard to post, the horse should be helping you....dont post more then he bumps you out of the saddle. This might help keep your lower leg still.
     
    09-10-2010, 11:50 PM
  #8
Weanling
Quote:
Originally Posted by VelvetsAB    
English-- Keep your hands even. One hand keeps dropping lower then the other. Close your fingers up on the reins. You should maybe take your stirrups up one hole so that you can have your heel down just a little bit more. They are pretty flat right now. You also post really high...like almost over the pommel. You shouldnt be having to work so hard to post, the horse should be helping you....dont post more then he bumps you out of the saddle. This might help keep your lower leg still.
ok, ill lengthen my stirrups. Actually though, in english pleasure we want to post foward and back instead of up and down, which might be why it seems im posting over the pommel. Ill try to do it a little less though.im going to get a video up here really soon of us again with all this critique. Thankyou:)
     
    09-11-2010, 12:52 AM
  #9
Yearling
What everyone else said :) Hands and lower leg. Keep your fingers closed and thumbs on top. Keep your lower leg and hands more still as well.

I'm not sure what was intended with the trot poles but you want to make sure you have the horse lined up square so that he goes over them perfectly straight in the center. It seems that he's wandering off a lot and going over them towards the sides.

Congrats on everything you've accomplished so far and good luck next year!
     
    09-11-2010, 02:36 AM
  #10
Weanling
I'm sorry but what ever happend to the old school western pleasure horses? I think they looked so much better! They still had a nice slow jog, & the lope you could actually tell was a lope! Don't get me wrong, your horse is beautiful, but his lope just don't look like a lope. Theres just no effort in it. Looks like a half hearted attempt at a lope in the front, & a jog or trot in the back. I guess i'm just an" old school" girl! Also, ( & again i'm sorry, your horse really is lovely) I just can't get use to the fake tails. I think the only time they would look o.k. Is in a halter class, because when they are moving, or swishing their tail, it is so unnatural looking.
     

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