Critque our trot work? (dressage)

       The Horse Forum > Riding Horses > Horse Riding Critique

Critque our trot work? (dressage)

This is a discussion on Critque our trot work? (dressage) within the Horse Riding Critique forums, part of the Riding Horses category
  • Dressage trot work
  • Should hands cross over wither in dressage

Like Tree5Likes
  • 1 Post By teamfire
  • 2 Post By plomme
  • 2 Post By ~*~anebel~*~

LinkBack Thread Tools
    09-15-2013, 11:43 PM
Critque our trot work? (dressage)

Looking for a thorough critique of our trot! I realized after putting it together I should've put some walk in, but I forgot. Our canter's not ready for a real critique. XP So just trot work.

I'm pretty aware of most of my issues, just curious of any and all opinions! The only thing I'm going to mention is that this vid is from a ride 3 weeks ago, so some things are better now. Of recent, we've been working on keeping my calf quiet and still against his side, and that's been going really well, but that's obviously not going to show in this arrangement.

Again, any comments are appreciated. I just love having other's peoples perspectives and observations-- helps me learn.
plomme likes this.
Sponsored Links
    09-17-2013, 07:00 PM
You guys would really benefit from more energy. You and this beautiful horse are both about to fall over and go to sleep :) Things look good, you are a nice rider, it's time for some more contact, impulsion, electricity, and excitement.
Foxhunter and existentialpony like this.
    09-21-2013, 03:56 AM
Relaxed and more quiet hands would be my first thing!! :) You guys look great!
    09-21-2013, 11:47 PM
Originally Posted by plomme    
You guys would really benefit from more energy. You and this beautiful horse are both about to fall over and go to sleep :) Things look good, you are a nice rider, it's time for some more contact, impulsion, electricity, and excitement.
Agreed. He's collected but not pushing into that contact. At times it looks like he gets a little heavy on the forehand & pulls you a tad. Seat looks good. Calves need to quiet down - but you've already mentioned that's getting better. Those hands though. This might just be the style I was taught but your hands need to open & wide. There's times where your hands are tapping each other they're so close. I feel like this closes you through the chest and limits your strength there.

When I ride my hands are straight out from where my elbows lie against my side, chest is open, core is strong. If I held my hands like yours my core would collapse & I would no longer be able to hold my horse through my body. And trust me. If I rode my mare like that, dear lord she would truck me around the arena worse than she already does >.>
    09-22-2013, 12:27 AM
No, the horse is not collected.

OP until you fix your equitation the horse will not go properly. Your reins are far too long, you are pulling to take up the slack and your body is behind the motion.

Once your reins are the correct length and your seat is in front of the motion, driving the hind legs forward then the horse will become round. Right now the contact is very dangly and the horse is consistently weighting his forehand. Only once the horse is in a good, forward rhythm, supple and having a good contact can you begin to truly advance in dressage. Follow the training scale.

ETA your hands are in a good position. Wide hands do not belong in a dressage ring or on a training horse. All they serve to do is restrict the horse and force him to become crooked. It is a nice way to say "pull on the face and kick", which as we all know is not correct - ride from back to front with quiet hands.
Posted via Mobile Device
Kayty and Klassic Superstar like this.
    09-22-2013, 06:44 PM
How do I get my seat in front of the motion? Am I leaning too much behind? Or do I need to get him more forward to achieve this? (but I feel I am impeding him here even as I ask for more. The few times my coach hopped on, he just GOES, and it looks like she isn't doing particularly more, just sitting better)

Yes, the reins are a constant battle. I still can't keep my hands closed so the reins slide out... sigh.
    09-22-2013, 07:23 PM
Just wanted to correct my wide hands comment. I did not mean pull them out and away from the horse like chicken arms. I've always learned there should be a straight line from your elbow to the bit. Not super far and out past the shoulders, nor close together over the withers. I have not been riding Dressage for very long and know my knowledge can be quite limited on what's "correct" so I read through a couple different things online & all said the same thing. Hands should not cross over the withers. There should be a straight line from the elbow to the bit or snaffle rings.

From my standpoint OP your hands are at the correct position height wise, but the crossing of the withers & allowing them to smack together is not correct. There are times though where they're in a good spot, then you adjust or do something & they seem to clack together again. Not trying to start an argument here. Just trying to clarify my original post.
    09-22-2013, 09:50 PM
Hands touching is actually more correct than hands too wide and having the outside hand on top of the withers is a way to help control the shoulders.

About getting in front of the motion - can you drive the horse with your seat to make a quicker step? If not you are behind the motion. If you ask the horse to go do you fall back? Then you are behind the motion. Think about pedalling a bicycle and how active your body must be to get it up a hill - that is how your body position must feel
Posted via Mobile Device
    09-23-2013, 01:09 AM
Good to know about the hands... I tend to worry about it. My coach never really mentions them (except to ask me to quiet my hands by bringing my elbows to my sides or to do something to correct/support the horse) and since others usually tell me to widen them, never really sure where they're supposed to be, when at 'default.'

That is super imagery, wow. Thank you anebel!!!! It certainly never feels like that, except maybe at warm up during a lesson where my coach has me stretch the horse out and forward around the arena. Huh.

Quick Reply
Please help keep the Horse Forum enjoyable by reporting rude posts.

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the The Horse Forum forums, you must first register.

Already have a Horse Forum account?
Members are allowed only one account per person at the Horse Forum, so if you've made an account here in the past you'll need to continue using that account. Please do not create a new account or you may lose access to the Horse Forum. If you need help recovering your existing account, please Contact Us. We'll be glad to help!

New to the Horse Forum?
Please choose a username you will be satisfied with using for the duration of your membership at the Horse Forum. We do not change members' usernames upon request because that would make it difficult for everyone to keep track of who is who on the forum. For that reason, please do not incorporate your horse's name into your username so that you are not stuck with a username related to a horse you may no longer have some day, or use any other username you may no longer identify with or care for in the future.

User Name:
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:


Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.

Old Thread Warning
This thread is more than 90 days old. When a thread is this old, it is often better to start a new thread rather than post to it. However, If you feel you have something of value to add to this particular thread, you can do so by checking the box below before submitting your post.

Thread Tools

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
critque dressage lesson Rachel1786 Horse Riding Critique 20 02-20-2013 02:16 PM
Trot/Canter Work on Ollie (dressage) "training level" Klassic Superstar Horse Riding Critique 16 01-11-2013 11:15 AM
I am working on posting the trot, but it still needs a lot of work. Any tips? amberly Western Pleasure 12 01-05-2013 02:52 PM
Walk/Trot flat work ideas. HorsesAreForever Horse Training 7 05-18-2009 04:26 PM
dressage critque ditzydoo Horse Riding Critique 8 07-29-2008 03:41 AM

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:21 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2015, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0