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post #1 of 11 Old 10-06-2011, 01:52 PM Thread Starter
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Cutting or Barrels? What do you think?

She is a wonderful baby, my four year old quarter horse mare, Crescent I would love a critique of her conformation and whether you think she has the body type for cutting or barrels? Thanks!
Also ignore her feet, they were a bit long at the time and have been fixed, and the ugly look on my face I wasn't ready for the picture to be taken :)
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post #2 of 11 Old 10-06-2011, 01:58 PM
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She seems either camped out or sickle hocked...or both. She also looks fairly butt-high. Don't know how these translate into performance in the cutting or barrel arena, but those are the things that stand out glaringly to me (I am not really into the western disciplines, although I do want to try team sorting one of these days lol).
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I think she looks like she isn't on totally level ground or properly squared but she looks like she could do both fairly well. It realy depends on if she enjoys it. I would say try her out in both there is no harm in doing that but she really seems to be needing more butt and neck muscle. Good luck with her she's gorgeous :]

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post #4 of 11 Old 10-06-2011, 02:16 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks! Yeah the ground is not too level and at that point she hadn't had much done with her, I took her out to see some cows while I was in Ellensburg and it was one of the most amazing things I have ever experienced, she loved it, she had never had any training to but she responded to the movements of those cows like its what she was born to do. Crescent and I recently moved across the state to western WA and I have been looking around my area for a trainer but so far no luck.
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If it seems like she enjoys cow work - try her at cutting! My only concern is she looks a bit thin through the shoulders for cutting. There's a lot of shoulder and front work in cutting, where the horse has to get down on its legs, stay low and follow the movements of a cow smoothly for a few minutes. Generally cutting horses are stock type (they are recently about 14-15hands but they can big bigger, and there's a push for them to BE bigger as being smaller makes it harder to carry a full sized rider while performing at a high level.) How tall is she?? I would also recommend working her through a training program and put her on feed to gain some muscle. But she's young - so theres room to grow! Pretty girl though!

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Larry Trocha - look him up. He's an honest, GOOD horseman. He has tips, training videos, clinics, and all sorts of things to get you started in Cutting. I love his techniques and no-nonsense attitude. He's an excellent resource and place to start!
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I'd be interested in his level of cow sense. He could be built great for cutting, but it won't matter if he's uninterested.
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I'd be interested in his level of cow sense. He could be built great for cutting, but it won't matter if he's uninterested.
Very true. All the training in the world won't help if they don't care about cows you said she liked it when you took her to do some cow work? Like a natural attraction to working them? This would be a great sign that you've found what she likes to do!!
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Thanks everyone for all your input, these pictures are from back in May when I first started riding her, before I owned her and she had just turned 4, she was still growing a bit and her shoulders have broadened a bit, rendering my saddle unusable for her lol. Since she is loves working with the cows so much I am going to go for cutting instead of barrels.
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I would delete that first photo from your post for a confo critique! In that photo she looks butt high, ewe necked, sickle hocked AND camped under along with long backed and rough coupled.

The next photo is better but she is still camped under and she is either ewe or hatchet necked (I think the former not the latter). She also appears a slight bit tied in behind the knee.

I think she is a bit long in the back for cutting work. How tall is she? Most cutting horses are 15HH or less.

The main thing in cutting is regular access to cattle to work. If you do not have access to cattle on a regular basis (like living on a ranch) then cutting may not work out so well (I would like to herd sheep with a dog but without daily access to sheep it ain't going to happen). When I lived on the farm I had cattle for the horse to work (daily as part of what we did) and for the dog to work (daily as part of what we did).

It is lovely to work cattle with a horse but you need to have them to make it work well.
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