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    03-01-2013, 12:22 AM
Green Broke
Thanks puck!
I can let them out more :)
I'm planning on riding him the next two days and lunge again Sunday maybe or Monday and I'll take them out a few more holes!
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    03-01-2013, 12:29 AM
Green Broke
Tiny, they are set low to encourage him to stretch down into the contact, I only have one side rein, the outside and the lunge line run from girth to bit to my hand to act as a release, and half halt to help rebalance.

I like to move him in and ou, spiraling both way, and into the out side reins and then once is settled and balanced he goes further out. He really likes this exercise :)
    03-01-2013, 12:55 AM
But, if you were riding him and you wanted him to lower his head, would lowering your hands make that happen? Becuase sometimes when people want the horse to lower their head, they kind of pull downward on the bars of the horse's mouth. Of course, this does not make the hrose put their head down, but makes them only more resistatn.

However, the way you have them, they aren't pulling downward on the bars. So, maybe it's not the same action as the rider who tries to pull the hrose down by lower their hands. H m m m.......

I am genuinely curious about this.

    03-01-2013, 01:02 AM
Green Broke
Agreed, when I ride my hands are up and together, going with the movement but steady soft contact.

I do this when I lunge hi to add support for balancing...for when he gets like this, what the video didn't show was the huge frantic it's to help him stay together better but not forcing, just helping encourage the head and neck tp supple down.

I can see for sure needing to put the outside rein out a few more holes so that when he's like this he has more freedom to go into the contact like Puck suggested, I will get more freedom of the hip and shoulder that way and lousy, swinging back.

:) hope thar helped.
    03-01-2013, 01:07 AM
I haven't done lunging in side reins in years. I could not remember the correct usage of them.
    03-01-2013, 01:12 AM
While that trot looks pretty, it's not correct.

He needs to be driven forward into an active and correct trot. Allowing him to do a fake, forward passage is only teaching him to disengage behind.
I would like to actually see the side reins up higher, but not too high. They should attach to the billets just under the saddle flaps, and eventually up just about 4-6" higher than that, but no higher. And they should also be a bit shorter, and the inside rein should be shortened a great deal. The horse should be clearly flexed to the inside (this will also prevent the fake passage stuff from happening) and the reins should not "flap". Also once he is driven more forward, it will be possible to half halt with the lunge line a little bit. Again, the lunge line should not be flapping, there should be a contact.
It is also helpful to have a knowledgeable ground work person help you with the lunging to avoid some of these common errors. However you are doing better than most!

Good luck!
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    03-01-2013, 01:19 AM
Green Broke
Annabel, thank you.

Asi said this is not how he is ever, this was due to the weather...
Lung line is flapping because I'm holding both whip and line in one hand while videoing with the other.

I don't lunge him unless He has to be worked/move around.
    03-01-2013, 01:38 AM
Originally Posted by Klassic Superstar    
Annabel, thank you.

Asi said this is not how he is ever, this was due to the weather...
Lung line is flapping because I'm holding both whip and line in one hand while videoing with the other.

I don't lunge him unless He has to be worked/move around.
Still when you are doing it, there should be a purpose and a correctness to it. Lunging and ground work in general is a very valuable tool.

This is also posted in the critique section ;) Sorry for assuming you wanted a critique - I will keep my fingers off the keyboard from now on.
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    03-01-2013, 02:04 AM
Green Broke
No I'm not saying I didnt like or agree with what you said, just that the video isn't him at his best due to the fact one hand is only lunging him lol
Had I had someone with me and he was a little less exuberant I could have really gotten a lot more from him.

Also like I said in the original post; he's not normally so hot. I need the hot so I didn't correct it or want to fight him and cause him to get frantic. Sentive TB boy lol

I will playground with the lunge settings, I'd rather be in the saddle together him to do this but I think it was good for confidence to not mess with him when he was hot today. Like in our clinic two weeks agoi was really able to ride him forward with wipe but secure seat and leg.

This is a bigger hump I think that I originally thought it would itsabig mental thing for me to be able to not want to tighten or correct aggressively nd such.

I do appraite your critique and like what you have to say and am grateful you and others took the time to watch and tell me what you think :)

I was up all last night till 8am this morning so I didn't want o rodeo nasty weather being so tired....seemed like a set up to fail lol

And with how he had so much energy I think would have retracted into my body and gotten tense and not bee able to relax and push him forward.
    03-01-2013, 02:19 AM
Your inner voice on these things is often very wise. When my inner voice says, "today is not the best day to ride", I listen.
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