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    04-06-2012, 09:28 PM
  #1
Weanling
Question Do I need to get over his neck more?


This is us today...we have finally gotten the distance issue corrected (turns out it was entirely my bad...I just needed to sit deep in the saddle instead of overly anticipating the jump.)

To me, it looks like I have to get over his neck more. Do I need to? (The jump is only 2 ft, though.) If so, how can I correct that?
     
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    04-06-2012, 09:48 PM
  #2
Weanling
Not sure what you mean by get over his neck more but I do think you are sitting down too soon, before the horse has cleared the jump. Work on holding your 2pt until he has landed completely. Also make sure you give a little more release and keep your hands down on the neck for the entire jump. Otherwise looks pretty good, hope I was helpful :)
     
    04-07-2012, 10:18 AM
  #3
Weanling
Secure your lower leg, fold at the hip, and give a bigger release so you are not bopping him in the mouth. :)
     
    04-13-2012, 04:00 AM
  #4
Foal
Hello! I noticed your toes are outward over your jump. They need to be pointing straight. You came back into the saddle too soon, which would have made a good release hard. You notice your elbows are bowing out over the jump, they need to come closer toward your body. Your eye is up and that's great! Try to feel as though your arm and therefore release is an extention of his mouth. You are correct for not wanting to over jump this since it is 2ft, so work on your duration out of the saddle and your landing, and the release will come.
     
    04-13-2012, 05:09 AM
  #5
Yearling
I'm not all that experienced with jumping, but my personal opinion is that your stirrups are too long and your leg, especially your lower leg is not secure and unable to be used effectively. Whilst you don't want to over-jump this height, you do need to work on your release. I would move my hands up a little to allow an effective release so you are not catching him in the mouth when landing.
Your upper body is too upright and I feel again if the stirrups were shortened, you would have an effective leg and be able to use your seat better. This would allow you to fold at the hip more easily whilst bringing your body closer to the horse/saddle. What I see is that you've come out of the saddle because you're compensating for your ineffective leg.

I hope this advice helps. Again, I'm not a regular jumper, but have helped fellow jumper friends be the eye on the ground and it seems that this is a common problem with the lower heights. All the best!
     
    04-13-2012, 12:39 PM
  #6
Yearling
I see the sitting too soon as well. You do have your eyes forward, which is my huge pet peeve, so brownies from me ;)

I know what you mean by get more on his neck. You mean should you be folding more at your hips ;) Can I hiijack your thread?

Do you all think I should fold more too? This is also 2'
     
    04-13-2012, 03:16 PM
  #7
Foal
No Jumper, you don't need to fold more, leave your upper body. I like this, but your knee, lower leg, and feet are pointed outward and need to point straight. Make sure that you don't have an unessissary knee roll that is encouraging you to do this. I don't like knee rolls except for higher jumps. It looks like your horse may have over jumped this a smidge! Not a huge deal, they all do it at some point, but make sure he is not consistently doing this. Good job both of yall! We all have places where we can improve our jumping. Yall both have your eye up which is very important for your balance and situation awareness.
     
    04-13-2012, 05:18 PM
  #8
Foal
You do not need to fold more, but you do need to put your hands further up your horses neck, and at the end you landed a little too hard on your horses back, but it wont take you very long to sort it all out I think.
     
    04-13-2012, 11:19 PM
  #9
Yearling
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Originally Posted by 94broncoxlt    
No Jumper, you don't need to fold more, leave your upper body. I like this, but your knee, lower leg, and feet are pointed outward and need to point straight. Make sure that you don't have an unessissary knee roll that is encouraging you to do this. I don't like knee rolls except for higher jumps. It looks like your horse may have over jumped this a smidge! Not a huge deal, they all do it at some point, but make sure he is not consistently doing this. Good job both of yall! We all have places where we can improve our jumping. Yall both have your eye up which is very important for your balance and situation awareness.

Thank You! :)
Not only do I have knee rolls on my saddle, I also have bad knock knees x.x And? I'm pigeon toed! Haha, bad mix :p I am trying to point my toes more forward, though it's been a challenge ever since I started riding :/ And for the overjumping, yes, Diamond does overjump every once in a while. She's fairly green to jumping, and she knows she's a small 14h. She is built small too, and you can tell she knows it. So she wants to make sure she doesn't knock a rail :p
Standardbred likes this.
     
    04-14-2012, 12:59 AM
  #10
Foal
NO. Definitley DO NOT fold forward more, as it is, to many people lean forward too much. It only unbalances the horse, makes the rider look like they are going to bite a chunk out of their horse's neck and it makes the rider's lower leg swing back. The horse can also occasionly bump the rider in the head. Not good! You position looks good in all other aspects though. I would suggest getting some proper jumping poles, even PVC pipes as they look more substantial and encourage the horse to bascule (round over the jump and use it's legs and shoulder more efficiently) as well as being safer if the horse hits it. Good luck with you jumping, it looks really good.
     

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