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    03-22-2010, 04:14 AM
Do you think he's worth this?

So I've been thinking about posting a thread here about this for awhile, even though most of you are not from New Zealand, I'm assuming the market is pretty much dead everywhere.

I'll try not to go on too much but I can't make any promises
Last March (was a year ago on the 20th) I fell off my mare and shattered my leg. Although I've finally gotten to a stage where I can ride again, the longest I'm lasting right now is 15mins, and I'm only riding my mare, although not presently. I had my gelding up on the market before Christmas, but took him down because he went through an odd stage and I believed he was sore but it was actually a problem I had made (started to distant myself because I knew I had to sell him and he turned sour and threw all his toys out of the cot so to speak. Purely my own doing). Since I'm not a person who would sell a sore horse (I'm incredibly honest and speak up about all their flaws immediately), I have been working with my guy to sort his problems etc.

I would keep him as he is my baby and I've had him for quite sometime now, however the reality is, I'm never going to ride as good as I used to, and he's an expressive horse in movement. I wouldn't keep up with him, hell I was struggling to when I wasn't part bionic. He is the type of horse who loves work, so he's kind of not himself so to speak... sure he's loveable and happy, but you can tell he would love nothing more than to go for a ride.

He did have a rider, who was helping me sell him, but after awhile she started riding for someone else and so Evo has no rider currently. I namely want to know if people would consider my guy at this lowered price etc.

Evo is 12yrs old, sound, straight and been under saddle since 2007. He was professionally trained in Jan 08 by my instructor, went to the beach, can school in a working frame in the walk and trot and was getting there with being consistent in the canter. He loves to jump, and was jumping 1.05m on the lunge back then. Can be ridden alone or in company, likes road rides, and self loads onto trailers. He's friendly as, easy to deal with, although he does have moments where he spooks when his rugs come off, just silly things like that. No dirt under saddle, a perfect gentleman who tries his heart out. We proved he could be pulled out of the paddock whenever after winter last year and he offered to work for his rider at the time. He doesn't need riding daily, he knows what he needs to do. A 12y.o who normally rode ponies came and tried him and was safely trotting him around my large paddock with ease once she got used to his expressive movement. Most importantly, he takes real good care of his riders, as I've always had a bad leg and he's made sure I stay where I'm meant to be!

The only faults this horse has is that he was used (and abused) as an apprentice driving horse for 7yrs before I got him. He has anxiety (hardly flares up) and will 'windsuck' if the scenario strikes. He doesn't latch on, just twist his lip and sucks in. Like I said, hardly does it, but I always bring it up in case. Because of this habit, he wore down his front teeth and so he can't go without hay/supplementary feed over winter as he can't pinch really short grass and keep his weight well with poor grass during this time.

He was meant to be my dressage horse, and show mount. He's got the talent for it, but apart from several inquiries (all in which said his movement was just too big for them to handle - the ad clearly stated he had big movement, yet once you get the hang of it you'll fall in love with it) no one seems to want my big guy. I was advertising him at $1000 NZD, but when I put him back up, because he's not in work I'm putting the price at $600.

Do you think this is reasonable? I mean I'm incredibly biased, but I think Evo is an amazing package, and for someone who wants to compete, he'll go well, and be a great companion. However, I'm his Mummy and only think the best of him lol Please give me some thoughts! I don't really want to let him go for anything less, but not being in work does mean I won't get much for him. I know I'll never get what I've put in him but at the end of the day, him happy with a nice home is the priority.

Here's some photos...

Jan 08

Nov 09

Nov 09

Nov 09 (his third canter under saddle since being back in work for the year but he offered well and that was what counted!)

Recently taken.

Thanks in advance, especially if you read the entire novel! Haha!
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    03-22-2010, 04:29 AM
Gosh he is cute!! Looks like he would need a bit of canter work, but he looks like a fun ride. And seriously, he has THE cutest face ever!! :)

Good luck!
    03-22-2010, 04:39 AM
He is long in his canter, but he always tries. He was at a level where he was starting to build himself up enough to really lift that canter and slow it down, but of course with lack of work that goes back out the window. It's in there lol.
    03-22-2010, 05:01 AM
I think he is most definitely worth what you want to put him up for :] I'd take him if I could! XD
    03-22-2010, 05:47 AM
Originally Posted by xeventer17    
I think he is most definitely worth what you want to put him up for :] I'd take him if I could! XD

Thank you. I think he's a steal at that price... just hope I can sell him before winter starts to come around here in NZ!
    03-22-2010, 05:55 AM
I'm not too familiar with the NZ market, but I think you're selling him too cheap. Put it as $1000 neg to right home. If he has the expressive movement, like you say, the right person will buy him. If he has the talent, some one will snap him up. I'm guessing he's a standardbred? In my area, standies and standie x's do quite well in the hunter ring.
Are you including any tack in the asking price? Is he a beginners horse or is he more suited to being a 2nd or 3rd horse?
    03-22-2010, 06:07 AM
Originally Posted by Gidji    
I'm not too familiar with the NZ market, but I think you're selling him too cheap. Put it as $1000 neg to right home. If he has the expressive movement, like you say, the right person will buy him. If he has the talent, some one will snap him up. I'm guessing he's a standardbred? In my area, standies and standie x's do quite well in the hunter ring.
Are you including any tack in the asking price? Is he a beginners horse or is he more suited to being a 2nd or 3rd horse?

He was at $1000 and no one was biting - this was when he was being ridden. We're overburdened with Standardbreds in NZ, so they go very cheaply. I didn't really want to go low on price, but I do need to be realistic and sell him. Apart from his bridle and bit he will not come with any other tack (I use my saddle on both horses)... He is more suitable for someone capable, he's quiet enough to take a beginner for a spin (as he has done a few times, and even a couple of "pony rides") but he does need a rider who will support him if he gets worried about something. Like I said he's not dirty, but I think an animal his size (16.1hh est) and being so long etc, he does need someone who knows what they're doing. Or someone who has access to ground support if they were still getting basic experience.
    03-22-2010, 06:11 AM
Thought I'd add this... its by no means up here for critique AT ALL... this was his third ride back after winter break last year... zoom zoom in the canter, and the transition down to trot was sloppy... but we weren't expecting much. That's his "rough trot" he's a hell of a lot smoother and consistent when working correctly. But this is his movement... and this is "too big" for all the people who were interested in showing. I don't get it. Lol.

    03-22-2010, 06:34 AM
Just note I didn't see all of the video because my computer decided now would be an appropriate time to throw a tantrum.
I think that if you could work on his head carriage and get him working more from his hindquarters, you could get $1000 for him.
Can he leg-yeild and do shoulder ins? Can he do travers? Lateral movement will help supple him up, and I find that it can help with transitions.
Have you ever rode a dressage test on him? If so at what level and at what level is he training?
    03-22-2010, 06:39 AM
He is definitely a beautiful horse, no questions asked. I'm not the most knowledgeable horseperson (in fact, it's been a few years since I've had the privelage to be around the magnificent beasts) but he is certainly a gem.
As a prospective buyer (if only I lived in NZ!) I find it reassuring that you point out his flaws as much as his better features. I would personally not object to paying the initial price, though perhaps under negotiation?

Long story short, I think 1000neg. Is a fitting price to ask for your boy.

Good luck in finding him a good home!

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