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    08-22-2011, 09:58 PM
  #31
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Originally Posted by smrobs    
Holy cow, THR, he looks incredible under saddle.


I wonder how he would look in mine LOL.
Thanks Smrobs! It's a small saddle, only a 15" seat, and it weighs hardly anything, so I figured it would be a good one to set on him just to get him used to it. It looks surprisingly in-scale on him, doesn't it? I normally ride in a 17" Wade!

I think his wonky back leg (that was born warped) is looking a bit better too, don't you think?

And really, attitude wise, he's getting better. It does seem like he's mellowing out a bit. Sometimes I just get so depressed because he's not as perfect as everyone else's colts. ( And I don't mean physically either, because that's not his fault.) I mean, why can't be be laid back and mannerly like everyone else's colts?

PS. If you were closer, I would definitely let you try your saddle out on him for at least 90 days!
     
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    08-22-2011, 10:10 PM
  #32
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I'm with smrobs! He looks great!

Sounds like you are on the right track. Biggest thing with youngsters is consistency. He may not get it tomorrow, next week, next month but the lightbulb will go off eventually and when it does, man does it feel amazing! Don't give up, it's so worth it! I've still got the first mare I trained from weanling to finish, she's 24 now and has been re-claimed by my daughter :)

Don't give up, you'll get there
     
    08-22-2011, 10:19 PM
  #33
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Originally Posted by trailhorserider    
Zane is 13 months old now. Here are some pictures from less than a week ago.

I am doing everything I can to correct his mouthiness. I may fail, but it won't be from lack of effort.

What always brings me to tears is that I want to keep him. I want to keep him until he's 30! It's just that he's my first foal and I don't always know if we are going to make it. I just keep telling myself if I can only make it until he's old enough to send to a real trainer for saddle breaking, then maybe we will have a chance. Only 1 1/2 more years to go.

But it's not like me to get rid of a horse. I usually kept them until death do us part. So I really don't want to give up on my "baby." I will always wonder what happened to him if I give him up. It will haunt me forever if I fail with him.

Up until this point I have always owned horses that are middle aged or older. I have buried 3 horses now. That was why I was excited to have a foal. After a while you get tired of loosing them.
He looks great!!! I agree with smrobs! Very handsome boy for sure!!!! I think your doing great THR!!! Look at him! He looks so relaxed, and comfortable with a saddle already....I don't think you can ask for much more at that age. As for his mouthiness....just continue correcting him on it, and he'll get it! Some things just take longer :)
     
    08-22-2011, 10:20 PM
  #34
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Originally Posted by MHFoundation Quarters    
I'm with smrobs! He looks great!

Sounds like you are on the right track. Biggest thing with youngsters is consistency. He may not get it tomorrow, next week, next month but the lightbulb will go off eventually and when it does, man does it feel amazing! Don't give up, it's so worth it! I've still got the first mare I trained from weanling to finish, she's 24 now and has been re-claimed by my daughter :)

Don't give up, you'll get there
Thank you!
     
    08-22-2011, 10:22 PM
  #35
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Originally Posted by trailhorserider    
Thanks Smrobs! It's a small saddle, only a 15" seat, and it weighs hardly anything, so I figured it would be a good one to set on him just to get him used to it. It looks surprisingly in-scale on him, doesn't it? I normally ride in a 17" Wade!

I think his wonky back leg (that was born warped) is looking a bit better too, don't you think?

And really, attitude wise, he's getting better. It does seem like he's mellowing out a bit. Sometimes I just get so depressed because he's not as perfect as everyone else's colts. ( And I don't mean physically either, because that's not his fault.) I mean, why can't be be laid back and mannerly like everyone else's colts?

PS. If you were closer, I would definitely let you try your saddle out on him for at least 90 days!


As for him not being as good as other yearlings....I just talked to my vet today about Rodeo. They went out there to do a health certificate....they said he was a MONSTER!!!! They said he wouldnt stop rearing, he was dragging them around the barn, wouldnt stop spinning in his stall. They said they put a chain on him, and it cut him across his nose.

Lol, so my seemingly "perfect", and "good" little boy isnt so perfect, or good afterall!!! I think your doing a fantastic job with Zane! I know for sure it can get depressing, but keep your head up, keep doing what your doing, and everything will work out :)
     
    08-22-2011, 10:30 PM
  #36
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Originally Posted by csimkunas6    
He looks great!!! I agree with smrobs! Very handsome boy for sure!!!! I think your doing great THR!!! Look at him! He looks so relaxed, and comfortable with a saddle already....I don't think you can ask for much more at that age. As for his mouthiness....just continue correcting him on it, and he'll get it! Some things just take longer :)
Thank you! He thinks the saddle is no big deal since I've been putting things on him since he was born.

A friend suggested that a couple times a week I just saddle him up and let him stand tied (to learn patience) so that's what we are doing. He is getting more and more patience each time. The first couple of times he pawed a lot. Now he stands nicely more than he paws.

Before the saddle, I did this:
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    08-22-2011, 10:34 PM
  #37
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Originally Posted by csimkunas6    
As for him not being as good as other yearlings....I just talked to my vet today about Rodeo. They went out there to do a health certificate....they said he was a MONSTER!!!! They said he wouldnt stop rearing, he was dragging them around the barn, wouldnt stop spinning in his stall. They said they put a chain on him, and it cut him across his nose.

Lol, so my seemingly "perfect", and "good" little boy isnt so perfect, or good afterall!!! I think your doing a fantastic job with Zane! I know for sure it can get depressing, but keep your head up, keep doing what your doing, and everything will work out :)
Maybe he is just trying to live up to his name. (I'm sure it was just because they were strangers.)

I kind of wish I would have named Zane "Houdini." He is too smart for his own good and for the first several months of his life he would roll out through the pipe corral fencing and end up on the other side.
     
    08-23-2011, 12:46 AM
  #38
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You're right, his leg is looking a ton better. I had to take a close look at some of those pictures to even figure out which one it was LOL. As for his attitude, like we keep telling you, just keep after it . Yep, it gets frustrating, and some days it feels like you are going backward. And don't feel quite so bad, for all the good I talk about Rafe, he certainly has plenty of those "Dammit Rafe!! Quit being such a pain in the ass!!!" moments. Like when he drags the hose out of the tank the instant I turn my back or all those times when he decides that he's still an obnoxious colt with the farrier (hard to be considered a colt when you weigh 1100 pounds LOL).

One thing I did want to ask you about his leg... When you look at him from behind when he's squared up, does his right hip look lower than his left? I am wondering if maybe the other bones in his leg will grow a bit longer to compensate for the shortness of the cannon bone.
     
    08-23-2011, 07:32 AM
  #39
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Originally Posted by trailhorserider    
Maybe he is just trying to live up to his name. (I'm sure it was just because they were strangers.)

I kind of wish I would have named Zane "Houdini." He is too smart for his own good and for the first several months of his life he would roll out through the pipe corral fencing and end up on the other side.
LOL, maybe he was trying to live up to his name, Hah, you could be right!! That's too funny about Zane though! Houdini sounds like it would have fit him great for sure! Those pictures are adorable! That's what I started doing when I got Rodeo at 10months old :)
     
    08-23-2011, 11:30 AM
  #40
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Originally Posted by smrobs    
You're right, his leg is looking a ton better. I had to take a close look at some of those pictures to even figure out which one it was LOL. As for his attitude, like we keep telling you, just keep after it . Yep, it gets frustrating, and some days it feels like you are going backward. And don't feel quite so bad, for all the good I talk about Rafe, he certainly has plenty of those "Dammit Rafe!! Quit being such a pain in the ass!!!" moments. Like when he drags the hose out of the tank the instant I turn my back or all those times when he decides that he's still an obnoxious colt with the farrier (hard to be considered a colt when you weigh 1100 pounds LOL).

One thing I did want to ask you about his leg... When you look at him from behind when he's squared up, does his right hip look lower than his left? I am wondering if maybe the other bones in his leg will grow a bit longer to compensate for the shortness of the cannon bone.
Zane loves the water hose too! And the wheelbarrow. Just about anything he can get into mischief with.

Yes, his hips are uneven from behind, with the "bad leg" being about 1 inch shorter than the other.

I measure him occasionally from the point of his hock to the ergot. It's staying consistent at 1 inch difference. I am glad to know it is keeping pace with the other leg in growth, but of course I wish it would catch up too. I have a feeling it won't.

I look at it sort of like both legs are the same length, but one of them is bent, so it is functionally shorter. So I kind of doubt it will catch up, but I would love it if that happened.

If I had to, I'm sure a farrier could put on a pad to lift that foot up a bit once he is old enough to ride, but I don't want to do that too early in case he can compensate for it on it's own, know what I mean? It doesn't seem to slow him down any, but I know it bodes poorly for his long term soundness. Can't do much about it though, so I'm not stressing over it right now. Right now my goal is just for him to have manners.
     

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