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post #1 of 13 Old 02-03-2010, 09:02 PM Thread Starter
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English vs. Western equiptment

I have been training my TB (Red) on collection and he seems to do better in English equiptment.

I have been using a twisted wire english snaffle bit and an english bridle on him and it works better to keep his head where i want it than ANY western bits i have used on him.

Plus when i am riding in my english saddle he is more balanced under me. And its not just him.

My mare (Josie) and Charlie are also better at collecting and following commands in English tack.

Has anybody else noticed that?

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post #2 of 13 Old 02-03-2010, 09:44 PM
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It seems like some horses just prefer one or the other..as well as some people, subconsciously..
I had a horse who did best ridden western with a western bit and bridle but in an english saddle, which was kind of funny.
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post #3 of 13 Old 02-03-2010, 09:47 PM Thread Starter
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its wierd because ive never ridden him in any english competitions and just barely started trying him in english and he does great. but hes been ridden western his whole life

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I've noticed that, too. I think it might be because you are closer to the horse than in a western saddle. English also seems to have more direct cues than western.

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Lol, thanks! I have it on a hoodie :)

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post #7 of 13 Old 02-04-2010, 12:25 AM
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It really doesn't have much to do with tack. It's how a horse is trained and how well the rider rides the horse. A good rider can get the same type of collection in english tack as well as western tack, with work.
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The style of tack that you ride with should not matter as to how the horse goes. It is a matter of training. Your post leads me to question the fit of the western saddle & also ask what kind of western bits you are using. If you are looking for collection, that comes from training. An ill-fitting saddle & mis-use of bits will cause problems in acheiving collection.

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Very good post from GottaRide - but also what not so much confuses me but questions the OP's bias towards "english" is the fact that western horses are generally started and are taught to basic principles of collection in a snaffle or similar bit that is also used in english. I would also disagree that western is more "bit dependent" as some posters were inferring - rather I would hesitate to say that western is more focused on having their horses more in-tune with their seat aids in comparison with your average hunter rider (I say this lightly and for the GENERAL hunter population).

And regardless; collection does not equal a certain headset/position and you do not put or keep your horses head there...
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I ride both english and western, and I find that when a horse was starte din english they act that way. however, when I put my jumping saddle on Annie she has no idea what to do. God forbid I put an English bridle on her, or she would hardly be rideable at all. Granted she's gotten a lot better, but she still prefers my reining saddle and curb bit ^^

However, Honey was started in English and is much more balanced in the jumping saddle. She fels very awkward western, like she's afraid its gonna eat her or something ^^

Pssh.I didn't pick up the wrong lead
It's called a counter canter...
...A very advanced maneuver.
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