Is this even close to a jog?

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    08-23-2012, 03:40 AM
Is this even close to a jog?

Would appreciate a lend of your eyes. As you can probably see from the saddle. I am an english rider. However, I've always enjoyed watching western events and was told when collecting for a little way (before a transition) this horse below recently, that he's got a decent jog going. I wasn't so sure about this myself. So if anyone can say yay, or neigh to this that'd be good. If there's a good thing going already with his trot, that I can get him to jog. Well, with more work I might put us out there and do some beginner western pleasure. Walk trot. Something. I just assumed the trot below to be collected and that's it. But then, that's what a jog is... a collected trot, is it not? I know that if I wanted to refer to the below example of the trot as collected trot in the 'english world' that he would need more impulsion from behind to pick homself up more etc. Plus moving into a different contact (bit wise) would be more acceptable.

Don't worry, I'm aware of the looks I get from dressage riders when they see me train in a curb on occasions. I don't want to have to go on an validate my reasoning here, but yes I do understand the different ways snaffles and curbs are used. I have excellent reasoning for doing so and it works well. Snaffles are good. But if they don't sit in the right spot, or if your horse resists once and realises when and where in their mouth snaffles can lose their 'bite' as a bit. It can lead to your horse doing so again. I prefer to stay off their mouths as much as possible. I also desire respect for the bit in their mouths without excessive force. The resulting argument I've had from some is that "Curbs are harsher than snaffles". No. Not the way they're meant to be used. Not the way I use them. Apologies for somewhat validating even though I didn't want to. I've gotten slammed sometimes because of what people don't know and pass judgement on :).

Back to the point. Jog or no jog? Thank you for your time. :) (Sorry about the novel?)

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    08-23-2012, 03:41 AM
It's really impossible to tell from a photo....
    08-23-2012, 03:44 AM
Sorry, it should be a photo you can click on and will open a video. I probably should have mentioned that...
    08-23-2012, 03:49 AM
Green Broke
No it's not even close, and he isn't really "collected," It looks like his back is hallow, and he isn't driving from behind.

Maybe some one else can help on this more.
    08-23-2012, 04:08 AM
Thank you :)
    08-23-2012, 10:51 AM
Hmmm...all I get is:

"This is a Private Album / Please enter the password from album Equibee to view this private album."

I wouldn't call a jog a collected trot. As I understand it, it is an easy, relaxed motion with a loose back, but it doesn't require a significant shift of weight to the rear legs. There may be a different definition for showing...I wouldn't know.
    08-24-2012, 07:37 AM
The video does not work for me....says it's a private album and I need to log in.

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