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    02-04-2011, 01:08 AM
From what I've read, if a horse has a roaring problem it occurs on inspiration. When a horse canters, inspiration occurs during extension and exhalation occurs as the front limbs land. So from what I can see in the video, the horse's loud breathing sound occurs as the horse is landing, so during exhalation, so apparently he is not a roarer. If anyone sees it differently, please comment.
If this is the case, either the horse is out of shape (as people have noted he is not particularly well muscled up) or the person with the video camera has the "zoom-microphone" option on and it is pointed at the horse's head. Sometimes that makes things seem louder than they are in real life.
To me the horse seems decently put together and obedient. If you wanted to do higher level dressage I would have some concerns about the overall length of the horse. Some of those really long thoroughbreds have difficulty getting more than a degree of collection. He seems very coordinated for his size though, so his mind may help him go farther than I might think at first glance. To pick up the canter from a walk with his length of body would probably require more training than just basic dressage.
Sometimes I prefer a horse that is a little older and hasn't been used very hard yet because they will last longer. He still has plenty of time to learn many things before he is old.
Just fatten him up a little and add some muscle. He will be gorgeous.
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    02-04-2011, 12:57 PM
Here is the latest email the seller sent me:

I don't ride TC more than maybe once a week on average because of time constraints so I wouldn't consider him "show ready". Unless you are able to work with him a lot I don't know how much you would be able to do in the ring with him at this point in time. Like I said before, I am willing to work out a lease, but I would really prefer not to because it is so much more work and I wouldn't be able to show him to other people. I am willing to sell him really cheap to someone who will provide him with a good home and works well with him, so that is really what I am pushing for. He is a nice horse with a lot of potential, but he is green and requires training that I don't have the time to give him. The loud breathing in the video is because he is a roarer, but it does not limit his stamina or ability. He raced for four years and did pretty well despite the roaring; it is just somewhat annoying to listen to until you get used to it. Let me know if you want to come out and try him sometime. We'll have to keep an eye out on the weather though since it's been pretty nasty lately.
    02-04-2011, 01:02 PM
Green Broke
Sounds like an honest seller.
    02-04-2011, 01:14 PM
You say that he is an appendix, is that what he was advertised as? Because if he raced how could he be an appendix. (the seller said in the latest correspondence that he had a pretty successful racing career?)

That seems a little odd to me. I agree with others that say he is very green, especially for a 9 year old. I also hope that he is NOT expensive, I think that you coud do better, if you post you area and price range, im sure that we would all help you find something, there are lots of horses out there, and Im sure that there are a lot of others like me....we love to shop for horses :). Even when it is not for us.
    02-04-2011, 02:31 PM
That's interesting she says he is a roarer. I think the seller is being honest, to a point. She didn't tell you about the roaring up front, maybe she was hoping you were uninformed? Or else she just thought if someone came to see the horse they would like him despite the problem.
Appendix horses can have race careers.
    02-04-2011, 02:34 PM
'02 16hh Thoroughbred x QH gelding. | Buy this Horse at Equine.com
That is the ad.

I am looking for something in the Tulsa, OK area that I could do dressage, hunter, jumper, or eventing with. Or maybe all of the above ;) My price range is up to 2,000, but of course I would prefer to look for something lower, or something that I could lease. :)
    02-04-2011, 02:53 PM
Appendix horses are raced as AQHA I believe, since that is how they are registered (someone correct me if I am wrong).

I had an Appendix off the track, but this was literally 10 years ago and I never really looked into his career.
    02-04-2011, 02:56 PM
Green Broke
Eliz, I just jumped on trusty old EquineNow and had a look in your area (in a totally non-creepy way) and MATE are the prices different there! Waaaay more expensive!!

Here in Texas I just sold two OTTB's with no training other than on the track, both bays, one 16.1hh 4yo and one 16.3hh 7yo both reasonable of mind and body and they went for $750 and $950. Nothing wrong with them just needed re-training. Good, cheap horses.

Now, you might think that a horse off the track requires more training than the ones you are looking at but from the video of the guy that you posted, he didn't look much further ahead in his training than your average OTTB.

Wish I could be of more help.

P.S. OK is Oklahoma right?
    02-04-2011, 04:09 PM
Horseville Horse For Sale - Good Looking Thoroughbred Mare - Ad 269361

TB Mare Off Track. No sure how comfortable you would feel with that. She sure looks like a heck of a mover, and nicely made up. She's about 2 hours from tulsa.

Oklahoma Thoroughbred Retirement Program - Contact Information

This is a thoroughbred "rescue" that is a little south of Oklahoma City, there adoption fees are extremely reasonable, and for your 2k budget you might be able to pay them a small delivery fee (abot 200-300 dollars) and they could probably get one to you.

Valentine Gamble seems to be a great guy, that with a little work could be great!
    02-04-2011, 04:21 PM
I have dealt with OTRP and they are VERY honest about their horses and do a fabulous job with correspondence!

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