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        08-20-2008, 11:28 PM
      #21
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    Originally Posted by ArabianAmor
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    Originally Posted by Spyder
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    Wow what an awesome topic! I think I agree as far as the 3rd one being the better extended trot, since that is what we are supposed to be looking at anyway... Although since we are looking at different frames in the trot it is really had to tell. The expulsion in the first one is awesome but at the same time both 1 and 2 have an extended front leg and no extended hind. So therefore it can't be correct am I right?? I really don't know though, but that is just how I see it!
    The requirement in the extended trot is that the horse should be gaining ground. This cannot happen when the haunches are not being used correctly either as lack of power( impulsion) or distance in striding ( short angle).
    Eh I don't know... I trust you though. Still learning this topic really. Thanks for the correction though
    No problem. I have judged dressage to FEI.
         
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        08-21-2008, 10:46 AM
      #22
    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by Spyder
    No problem. I have judged dressage to fei.
    Cool! I have been a hunter/jumper all my life and just now getting into dressage and I love it! I'll be sure to come to you if I have any questions, if you don't mind.
         
        08-21-2008, 11:00 AM
      #23
    Yearling
    Spyder critique my dressage please!! :P

    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=xoNr59IZ2dU

    The film quality isnt great but I would appreciate it if you could try

    Ignore the accidental flying change

    I will upload my score sheet and type it out if you want to see it :)
         
        08-21-2008, 08:10 PM
      #24
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    Originally Posted by moomoo
    Spyder critique my dressage please!! :P

    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=xoNr59IZ2dU

    The film quality isnt great but I would appreciate it if you could try

    Ignore the accidental flying change

    I will upload my score sheet and type it out if you want to see it :)
    Difficult to see as the camera is a distance from the ring. Just remember that if a movement is done that is at a higher level than the test requirements you could be eliminated.

    Now I don't have the benefit of sound but here is what I see.

    Corners not ridden into and the horse appears a ittle stiff. If anything you are guilty of what so many people just starting into dressage are guilty of. Don't be afraid to push the envelope more. Most riders tend to ride the movements and figures and fail to be willing push the horse for more than what you feel "comfortable" with. You can settle for a nice ride and you will get a decent score but the ones that win will always be the ones that give everything they can each time.

    I would have liked to have seen a more open trot. Your trot was not really a working trot . The canter was better but still conservative.I hope you can understand what I am saying.


    I am not sure of what level you were riding ..... training/level 1 ?
         
        11-04-2008, 08:25 PM
      #25
    Foal
    I know this is a very old topic but I'm currently also leanring about the difference between classical and modern dressage and it's made me go out and find a classical instructor to begin lessons with!

    I can not see the thrid photo at the moment (I'm at school and the computer blocks things so I can't see some files types) but both the first and second trot photos are disunited. Someone brought up an excellent point about JDI you not linging up on the same parts oft he legs, and each photo being in different stages of the trot. However, You can clearly SEE that the back of both horses is hollowed and the hinquarters are being left behind. There is great big flashy movement, with no engagment from behind!
         
        11-04-2008, 10:26 PM
      #26
    Weanling
    I think the 1st is definitely best. It shows extension while keeping a naturally collected frame. In pic 2 and 3 the horses look like theyre being forced into that frame..pulled in to relieve pressure...vs ... the 1st pic wich shows a horse pulling his nose downward and in because of his natural balance of the hind legs coming in underneath him to bring him foward. Pic 1 is def my choice for the very best extended trot
         
        11-05-2008, 05:18 AM
      #27
    Yearling
    Haven't read the whole conversation but have to mention that the book you reconmend is on my to read list... my friend got it and I was amazed at what she was talking about. Will have to come back to this thread when it's not so late at night!
    x
         
        11-06-2008, 12:48 AM
      #28
    Foal
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    Originally Posted by equineangel91    
    I think the 1st is definitely best. It shows extension while keeping a naturally collected frame. In pic 2 and 3 the horses look like theyre being forced into that frame..pulled in to relieve pressure...vs ... the 1st pic wich shows a horse pulling his nose downward and in because of his natural balance of the hind legs coming in underneath him to bring him foward. Pic 1 is def my choice for the very best extended trot
    the first horse I also behind the bit..very slightly, but the front of the face should not come at all past the vertical. On that note both photos two and three are also behind the bit..

    However photo three the horses hind legs are NOT united with his front as in pic 3
         
        11-06-2008, 12:58 AM
      #29
    Banned
    Take a look at the extension picture from the home page of this site.

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        11-06-2008, 01:04 AM
      #30
    Foal
    These are the two best extensions I could fine photos of



         

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