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post #11 of 19 Old 06-08-2009, 07:40 AM Thread Starter
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Something about the way he moved in the trot video jumped at me; has he ever had an injury to his right hind leg\hip? It almost seems like he favors that side a bit...

At any rate, just because he's 'pleasure' bred, DOES NOT mean he can't do dressage, at all! You can actually improve how well he moves in your western events by teaching him dressage movements, even simpler ones like a shoulder in, shoulder fore, or how to lengthen his strides. Everything about dressage is about helping a horse learn how to use his body MOST effectively; and if you can help him learn that, you will do even better in your other events.

Not the right - he got kicked about a week and a half ago on his left hip, though. And he was favoring it a bit. He had a nice gouge out from the shoe the other horse was wearing, too. I don't notice that he's favoring it from riding anymore (he was for 3-4 days at first) and nobody else has commented, though. I'm going to watch the video again.

We plan on working with dressage. What I'm asking for in the video is western pleasure movements, but I want to round him out in the future with a bit more leg action from him

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mom2pride - I see what you're asking about, in the first part of the video? He's actually trying to get away with loping, but I correct him before he can really shift the rest of his body. He's LAZY and when I move him out, wants to break out into a lope because it's easier.

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mom2pride - I see what you're asking about, in the first part of the video? He's actually trying to get away with loping, but I correct him before he can really shift the rest of his body. He's LAZY and when I move him out, wants to break out into a lope because it's easier.
It seems like he drops that hip alot further than he should, even after you correct him...maybe longer videos would make difference, because he still may have been trying to get himself back in a level frame after the correction...

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Im "one of the english people" but you look really good. His canter/lope (whatever) looks awful slow he just needs to step it up. Other than that you look great.

Posting isnt that hard, you just need practice. When ever my horses trot I automatically post, get yourself into that habit, its a good one and it helps YOU exercise too, that's how I get fit after Thanksgiving xD!

Good job overal, very nice =D!
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Im "one of the english people" but you look really good. His canter/lope (whatever) looks awful slow he just needs to step it up. Other than that you look great.

Posting isnt that hard, you just need practice. When ever my horses trot I automatically post, get yourself into that habit, its a good one and it helps YOU exercise too, that's how I get fit after Thanksgiving xD!

Good job overal, very nice =D!

Actually, I was told at a schooling show two weeks ago that his lope is too FAST for a western pleasure class. Haha! But truly, for showing western, his lope is probably the fastest you'd ever want to go, any faster and you wouldn't place.

I can post, bareback or in an english saddle. But posting in my western saddle isn't exactly easy or pretty.

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At both the jog and lope (but mainly the jog), he needs to drive up underneath himself more with his legs. He's pulling himself along more with the front end. I would work on setting his head, taking up some light contact, then using your legs to really drive his hind end under him. He might speed up a little bit at first, but keep working and it will improve.

He has a very rhythmic lope, an uses himself fairly well with some elevation of his shoulders. All good things. He could drive up underneath with that hind end some more, but it's not bad (and actually better than the jog). Maybe a little fast, but don't slow him down to the point where you lose that nice rhythmic cadence. In AQHA, slightly faster with good rhythm/cadence is better than slower but strung-out.

I agree with an above poster. At the trot, he is off. Can't tell for sure, but I was thinking right hind or left front. He's not shorting his stride any, but see how he has that little hop and head bob throughout. That is really indicative of a horse that is off. Doesn't show up anywhere else, though. Other than that, I actually like his trot. Try to learn to sit that trot, as a lot of shows ask for an extended jog in WP - it shouldn't be out that much, kinda 1/2 way between your jog and trot (although it is nice of a horsemanship extended jog)

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At both the jog and lope (but mainly the jog), he needs to drive up underneath himself more with his legs. He's pulling himself along more with the front end. I would work on setting his head, taking up some light contact, then using your legs to really drive his hind end under him. He might speed up a little bit at first, but keep working and it will improve.

He has a very rhythmic lope, an uses himself fairly well with some elevation of his shoulders. All good things. He could drive up underneath with that hind end some more, but it's not bad (and actually better than the jog). Maybe a little fast, but don't slow him down to the point where you lose that nice rhythmic cadence. In AQHA, slightly faster with good rhythm/cadence is better than slower but strung-out.

I agree with an above poster. At the trot, he is off. Can't tell for sure, but I was thinking right hind or left front. He's not shorting his stride any, but see how he has that little hop and head bob throughout. That is really indicative of a horse that is off. Doesn't show up anywhere else, though. Other than that, I actually like his trot. Try to learn to sit that trot, as a lot of shows ask for an extended jog in WP - it shouldn't be out that much, kinda 1/2 way between your jog and trot (although it is nice of a horsemanship extended jog)

Best of luck to you.

Thanks. I think he may look totally off because he's so out of shape. He's been a pasture ornament for two years up until a month ago. Prior to that, we competed and always place in the top five at AQHA shows.

I think I still see the way he used to move, too. So it's really nice to hear other people's comments.

My friend from VA is coming down tonight for the next few days- so hopefully I will have some more video of us trying the things you all suggested. She's a horse girl, too, so I'll finally have somebody to video!

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The only thing that jumped out at me is that you need to teach him to carry himself on his own. It will come with more riding time as he gains his strength back. Remember to not help him so much - especially at the lope. He does have a nice lope. I was actually surprised by how nice it was. The jog needs to get more collection, rhythm and consistency. A lot of this will come as he gets his strength back.

What kind of exercises are you incorporating into your daily riding sessions to get him back in shape? Just riding the rail won't get his muscles back where they need to be.

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The only thing that jumped out at me is that you need to teach him to carry himself on his own. It will come with more riding time as he gains his strength back. Remember to not help him so much - especially at the lope. He does have a nice lope. I was actually surprised by how nice it was. The jog needs to get more collection, rhythm and consistency. A lot of this will come as he gets his strength back.

What kind of exercises are you incorporating into your daily riding sessions to get him back in shape? Just riding the rail won't get his muscles back where they need to be.

Thanks! His jog was always the worst gait, the one we have to work hardest on.

We rarely ride on the rail, unless it's being videotaped. Usually we're doing smaller circle work in the jumping arena and running barrels for fun. Lately we've been doing a LOT of trotting (not jogging) and bending.

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