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        01-20-2014, 12:18 AM
      #11
    Showing
    Nothing to be embarrassed about!! Do some searching here and start to do some research about how to engage a horse properly. If your goal is building muscle, you want to do it right. There are many, many amazing posts on here from various users on the dressage forums in particular that are fantastic.
         
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        01-20-2014, 01:01 AM
      #12
    Green Broke
    She actually looks a lot more coordinated than I'm sure my gaited mare would be!

    I agree with the other poster, she's trying so hard for you! But I personally wouldn't do that with my gaited horse.

    As an endurance horse, I would be wanting to save the wear and tear on her joints. If you want to work on her hind end, I would work on a little bit of light collection. Which also is somewhat counter-intuitive for a gaited horse, but is probably a lot easier than jumping!

    Like with my girl, I will canter her up hills to practice cantering (this makes her work her hind end and gets her cantering instead of pacing). So I am sort of using the terrain to help her collect and shift her weight to her hind quarters. I know you said you don't have any hills so maybe that doesn't help any.

    Or I will push her a little with my legs while she is gaiting but also ask her to give to the bit and break at the poll. Maybe not true collection in the classical sense but it helps keep her from hollowing out.

    I dunno. Those are just some ideas.
         
        01-21-2014, 08:03 AM
      #13
    Yearling
    To cover my backside, because I advocated for the mare and her owner doing some free jumping:

    While I'm on the side that generally steers clear of free jumping, I actually don't think it would be a terrible idea for this mare to do smaller jumps, as shown here. There's nothing over 2' here. 2' isn't going to wear a horse's joints as long as it's not done too much, and the OP has said this is a rare thing she does. I don't see an issue with it there, as long as it's not overdone.

    Then again, I didn't know her canter issues were medical. I thought they were just from being inexperiences. If she's uncomfortable at a canter, I would definitely not be jumping her. If she's alright and is just wired to be a lateral mover, then I don't see an issue. Jumping these small jumps can help her learn to balance at a canter, maybe teaching her not to cross-fire or otherwise canter poorly.

    Just my opinion! Thought I'd elaborte, considering the increase of information/understanding of whats going on here.
         
        01-21-2014, 08:38 AM
      #14
    Green Broke
    Gaited horses werent' meant to be jumping a lot-they should know enough though to get over trail obstacles. My Paso Fino loved to jump, but my big Peruvian mare-didn't even want to go over a bar to the trails, especially if there was a way around it.

    Your mare is really trying & I think she does great! If there's a problem w/her cantering, then the lower jumps at a trot-well-she's getting over them!

    I like doing some jumping out on the trail, but especially w/my gaited horses-if it's not their thing, I don't make them do something that goes against all that they were bred for.
         
        01-21-2014, 12:09 PM
      #15
    Green Broke
    I'm generally of the same beliefs as Just.

    When I see a gaited horse jumping, I typically think "...why?' xD But that's just the Hunter princess in me!
    I think your mare is real cute, and you can see her little gears turning, trying to figure it out. (:

    I would start with trot and canter poles, to get her thinking about the placement of her feet. Once she's got that down, start raising things slowly. I wouldn't go too high, as it's really not necessary.
         
        01-21-2014, 03:19 PM
      #16
    Showing
    She has assessed the height as something she doesn't need to approach at the canter to get the extra push.
         
        01-21-2014, 07:01 PM
      #17
    Green Broke
    We just aren't sure if the canter issues are medical or just a wiring/muscle memory problem. If I knew for sure, this situation would be easier to call. Jumping, being a canter stride in the air, would help her learn to canter... If she was physically capable, which we aren't sure about.


    So maybe let's do it like this?

    Once a week, I do trot poles under saddle as JustDressageIt suggested. I will take videos for critique and do some research on engagement.

    Then, after trotting poles successfully for some time, maybe we'll try canter poles. If those aren't an epic fail and she proves physically able to canter properly, we proceed to canter poles and small (18" or less) jumps at liberty once in a blue moon.

    Sound safe?
         
        01-21-2014, 07:02 PM
      #18
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Saddlebag    
    She has assessed the height as something she doesn't need to approach at the canter to get the extra push.


    Explain further?
         

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