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    10-06-2008, 12:16 PM
  #1
Weanling
Gelding or Stallion?

I don't really know if this belongs in here, but I don't really know where else to put it, so if you have a suggestion on where to move it, please tell me.

So here's the thing. I was wondering what the day-to-day living differences between geldings and stallions are. So far I have only ridden geldings or mares, yet a friend of mine suggested I should get a stallion. The main things that concern me are temperament and "mating behavior". What do you do with a stallion when a mare is in heat? Do you put him as far away from the mare as possible (different paddock, etc)? For how long? Are they too distracted with mares around? I know it also depends on each horse, but a general idea would be nice to have.
What would happen if the stallion would actually jump the fence? Are there set rules for what happens after that?
I also wondered how testy they are and how best to counteract that, but I guess the best way is to ride a stallion and find out.
Thanks for any input!
     
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    10-06-2008, 12:31 PM
  #2
Yearling
Stallions? Whoah....

Stallions are meant for experienced horse people. It doenst matter if they have supeiour temperments and have never hurt someone or a mare or a gelding or another stallion. They can be dangerous, no matter if they are a mini or a percheron stallion. They are still intact with those hormones and react as such in ceartain situations. I have known stallions that ride well with mares and geldings, and pasture with them just fine, while other stallions must be seperated. I have never owned any stallions, but I hope to in the future once I get more experience under my belt with the breeding side of things and genetics lol. It all depends on the individual stallion if they are distratected by mares, can be pastured/ridden with other horses, temperement, ect. The rule of thumb is to treat every stallion the same, with respect but to never let them gain an inch and watch them all the time. Why are you interested in getting a stallion? What kind of experience do you have? Horses that are kept intact should be done so if they are extreme quality of the breed, and to represent them as such.
     
    10-06-2008, 12:51 PM
  #3
Weanling
Thank you for the information!
I have ridden since I was kid, but switched places many times, because my parents tended to travel a lot and move. I have leased multiple horses before too. I never showed though, I never quite felt that it was for me, so I can't really answer the question as to how good or what level I'm actually at. I have dealt with my share of stubborn horses.
My interest in stallions - well, multiple reasons. For one, I have never handled one and hence want to find out about them. Then I also find them very impressive. Plus, I will be getting a horse next year (after I graduate) and a lot of the horses (I do browse right now- can't help myself ) are stallions. I just want to know if I could handle a stallion. I know it depends on the individual too.
So I'm just trying to figure things out before next year.
     
    10-06-2008, 05:21 PM
  #4
Started
I wouldnt get a stallion if I were in your shoes...nor mine at this point. Im not sure of your living arrangments but most places wont board a stallion (being a mini or a full sized horse), the barns just arent set-up to house them. They are usually stronger then a mare or gelding and can get pretty hot in some situations.

Now I know that each horse is different. When I was younger I used to clean barn for the neighbor who had a awsome IBHA Champion Stallion... He was the most docile horse in the barn, but you walked a hot mare in front of his stall and he would get excited cause he knew what he was going to be doing in a few minutes.

I have also been at a AQHA show in the Sr Western Pleasure class everyone was going along just fine when all of a sudden a stallion mounted the horse in front of him!!! There really wasnt any warnings for the rider, the horse was going along just fine on lose rein and wham up he went. I know around here no rider under the age of 18 (cant be in a youth class) is allowed to exhibit a stallion at a show (with the exception of a weanling colt in a halter class)

I guess what Im trying to say is you should be a very knowledgable person to be keeping stallions and working with them. Maybe you could find a stable somewhere that has some stallions that they may help you out and teach you about them. Now you said that you are looking right now at horses to buy and there are alot of stallions...well a vet can take care of that part...lol
     
    10-06-2008, 05:57 PM
  #5
Yearling
I really don't see any point in owning a stallion unless you have a real interest in breeding. And unless you are planning on keeping him on your own property you'll have to do research on local barns. Many of them won't accept a stallions at all. Stallion owners should understand their horses strengths and weaknesses and be able to make smart breeding choices to produce the best possible foals. It strikes me as stupid to just have a stallion to have one. I know they look cool, but they shouldn't be treated like a trophy.

If you aren't breeding, but you really like a stallion you've found, geld him. A great stallion should make a fantastic gelding.
     
    10-06-2008, 06:00 PM
  #6
Weanling
Thanks for your answer. Yes, a vet can take care of it ;) Yeah, it sounds like what I feared. I am leaning more towards geldings either way since I don't want to breed, my friend just suggested stallions so I figured why not try to find out if my "fears" are actually true or just hearsay. So, yes, I don't really want to worry about my horse whenever a hot mare walks by.
Another question then, since you brought up the gelding thing, you wouldn't recommend getting a stallion and geld him either? If I can I will get a gelding, but is that something I should consider or just plain out ignore the "stallion" option in the search?

Thank you all so much for your input.

Edit: spelling.
     
    10-06-2008, 06:37 PM
  #7
Weanling
There is no reason to have a stallion unless you run a responsible breeding program IMO. Geldings make the best overall horses. They don't go into heat and act like idiots, they don't get moody, the generally live longer than mares and a recent study shows that geldings actually colic less than mares do.
     
    10-06-2008, 07:05 PM
  #8
Weanling
Exactly why I prefer geldings *smile*
Just to clarify, maybe I haven't been explicit enough on it: I don't buy a horse because I think it looks cool. I buy it for the character. I asked the question, because I was interested in how geldings and stallions differ in behavior etc. I have heard much hearsay so I just wanted to get some opinions on them. I'm just trying to learn all I can before I buy my own horse, so I try to keep an open mind and also ask basic questions. I just enjoy getting multiple views and aspects. That way I found I can find out new things that can be really intriguing. So please don't judge me or think of me as stupid or superficial. I just want to give everyone an open frame as to state what they think and pretend like I'm a novice so I can learn more.
     
    10-07-2008, 02:58 AM
  #9
Weanling
I didn't read all of the replies to this but this is my 2 cents worth.

My QH colt is 2 years old, I will be having him until he's a stallion (so 3).
There is more to that reason however.
I read that someone said there all dangerous.

Not ALL stallions are dangerous, I have met my fare share of stallions, some being more temperamental then others. My colt is the most laid back horse you could meet, more laid back then my GELDING, I do however believe you should have at lest SOME experience with horses and have a good understanding of how to handle a horse on the ground effectively, not 'bashfully', so to speak.

There are not many 'agistments, barns' where you can keep a stallion due to the risk of the stallion impregnating? A mare, or a gelding killing the stallion, Yes there are cases where geldings have actually killed a stallion because it was a threat to the 'herd'.
     
    10-07-2008, 12:05 PM
  #10
Yearling
Quote:
Originally Posted by *ArabianPrincess*    
I didn't read all of the replies to this but this is my 2 cents worth.

My QH colt is 2 years old, I will be having him until he's a stallion (so 3).
There is more to that reason however.
I read that someone said there all dangerous.

Not ALL stallions are dangerous, I have met my fare share of stallions, some being more temperamental then others. My colt is the most laid back horse you could meet, more laid back then my GELDING, I do however believe you should have at lest SOME experience with horses and have a good understanding of how to handle a horse on the ground effectively, not 'bashfully', so to speak.

There are not many 'agistments, barns' where you can keep a stallion due to the risk of the stallion impregnating? A mare, or a gelding killing the stallion, Yes there are cases where geldings have actually killed a stallion because it was a threat to the 'herd'.
All stallions need to be treated with respect, and they all have the potential to be dangerous. They are intact males, they have hormones. Sure, mares and geldings can be dangerous too, but stallions should be treated carefully, no matter how laid back they are.
     

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