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  • Do you grip with your thighs when showjumping

 
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    06-14-2007, 11:48 PM
  #1
Foal
GO 4 IT CRITIQUE ME SHOWJUMPING!!!!

:o PLease Critique me!! This is Jaybee Shultz, he is 9yr Gelding I use to jump last year. He is up for sale so any inquries please email me. In this picture he is ---- around 6-7. Can't remember..... that's BAD!! Anyway if anyone wants to doubt me owning this horse I can scan some papers to say I have!! Also if anyone wants his Pedigree I have it handy. This is at the Australian Showjumping Championships December 2004. I have more pictures too.

Picture taken by: Peter Brookman
     
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    06-15-2007, 12:11 AM
  #2
Weanling
This is what I can see from that picture.

You aren't using your legs at all!
Because you don't have enough leg, you're gripping with your knee.
You aren't bending at the hip enough, it also looks like you're not releasing AT ALL!! You're jerking your horse in the mouth, and you'll probably land earlier than him, so those are both two horrible things.

Heels down! Push your leg down and on his sides. It looks like he's jumping strong, but you need to grip with your calves, not your knees. Close your hip angle more and open your chest/keep your shoulders back.
Soften your hands, and find a happy spot to get your hands (don't rest on his neck).

Other then that you look Good.
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    06-15-2007, 12:35 AM
  #3
Foal
THATS what I like to hear! Quite frankly I don't need to use my legs on this horse, to support you mean? I don't have a clue what level you are at but going over the jump requires you to grip with your knees-cause it has a pivit action-and my heels are fine. Jumping doesn't really need your heels down to a certain consent-it requires you to put your toes out and as you said heels down-although comftably. In that jump I am releasing enough for the horse to put its nose out. To grow a nice round figure. Shultzy (Jaybee Shultz) is a very uphill horse, what I mean by that is fairly light in the front. But I have to thank you heaps for critiqueing me!!
Cheers mate!! 8)
     
    06-15-2007, 12:54 AM
  #4
Weanling
You don't pinch with your knees because pivoting is BAD. Your heels have to be down and your toes shouldn't be out :roll:
     
    06-15-2007, 02:22 AM
  #5
Foal
I agree with the above poster.

YOU're supposed to use your leg to help you get in a good position. Pinching with your knee is what you're not supposed to do, you want to grip with your whole calf and keep you toes pointed forward.

Looks like that horse has a lot of talent and you two could make a great team.
     
    06-15-2007, 04:19 AM
  #6
Foal
I think you two look pretty good, the horse could get his knees up a bit more though.
But you asked for critique for yourself, not the horse, so yes. =]
Your lower leg looks fairly good, but everything gets a little crowded up the top (though I can't really say much- my jumping position is far from perfect =P)...you're too far out of the saddle, and though your hands are in a perfectly good place for releasing, the reins are still quite short? But you explained the reason for that, and as you said, he's been given his head enough for his nose to come out and it certainly doesn't look like you're pulling on him.
Overall, a nice picture! =D

[and ArabianPrincess, can I ask who made your sig? It's beautiful!]
     
    06-15-2007, 05:20 AM
  #7
Weanling
A mate of mine made it.

She is awsum!
     
    06-15-2007, 12:31 PM
  #8
Yearling
I think you need to cut the fence about a foot or 2 in height and go back to the beginning. Your seat and position are not solid, you don't have a fundemental and necessary base, your insecure, do not have an automatic release, your legs are not even being utilized and your heel is nearly higher then your toe. You are basically standing in stirrups rather then gripping with your legs. This is extremely dangerous.

I know you aren't going to agree with what I said, and that's fine. But this is a critique, so when others offer advise, please try to eliminate the urge to argue back in your own defense.
     
    06-15-2007, 04:08 PM
  #9
Weanling
How well have you done with your horse? And to what level?

I think you look to be doing really well, jumping that height and staying on! Hehe sorry not funny!

I am in no possition to tell you how to do jumping but well done braving the critique page!

Your horse is lovely and from other posts I've seen you write on you seem to know what your doing, so good luck with it!

Y are you selling him?? Have you got a new one?

Elz x
     
    06-15-2007, 06:51 PM
  #10
Foal
I think I have to come to the defense of Aussie, I think you're all being a bit rough and need not be...

First of all, this horse is a jumper (am I assuming correctly?) Jumper position is very, very different from equitation position. Coming from the US which really has a huge equitation-nation (haha) I've shown for years in Equitation and know the jumpers fairly well. As a jumper - the perfect arched back, open chest aren't neccessary. Once you start getting up to the height that these fences are, it's really more up to the scope of the horse - and the rider well... getting out of the way essentially. Their job is to be light and springy like a cat - where as at the lower levels of jumping, it can be more focused on pose. I have to say that I have NEVER seen a professional jumper who has pefect equitation.

Also - yes, it does appear that his leg is a bit far back - but lets think about physics here for a second. Whether you like it or not, your leg is going to slip back a bit when a 1200 lb animal reaches over a 3+ ft fence. Unless your leg is tied down, for half a second, your leg will slip. I'm sure you all have photos in your home of yourself jumping - some have perfect leg position, some have it slipped back. I know I do - and depending upon the angle of the jump, the take-off, and how well the striding to the fence was done - your leg is either great - or slipped. Yes yes, gripping with your leg is the thing to do, and supporting your horse is a must - but to get to this level of fence height, I'm sure Aussie has proven that he has a decent leg :roll:

As for your release - it's just fine - your resting on the neck a bit, but I don't see that your horse is straining to get over the fence. Kudos.

Finally, before you all throw bananas at me for posting this, from the picture it appears that Aussie is a male rider. Women naturally have stronger legs - male riders often times pinch with the knee because it is well - more comfortable. I have seen many many male professional riders who ride with a pinched knee. It's just part of the sport.

Kindly don't light a fire under my bum - I'd rather like to keep it
     

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