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post #31 of 59 Old 12-10-2012, 09:12 PM
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Telling me not to do it because I can't afford a trainer is very discouraging. Especially when I am working my 18yr old A$$ off for these horses' upkeep. Feeding them is a tinge more important than a trainer. Especially when I can post pics/vids of my riding to my facebook and ask advice from a local trainer and friend
How was I supposed to know any of this??? I am not a discouraging person by nature, nor am I "snooty" by nature. Why assume this? Why instead don't you take what I've said to mind in a different light, rather than jumping on the defence and calling me out for things I did not mean nor know about? Think please... Then call me out again.
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While it might be discouraging, it is nothing about your fears, and everything about future safety.

Learning to jump without a trainer is about as sensible and safe as learning to drive a car from books, and advice on the internet.
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How was I supposed to know any of this??? I am not a discouraging person by nature, nor am I "snooty" by nature. Why assume this? Why instead don't you take what I've said to mind in a different light, rather than jumping on the defence and calling me out for things I did not mean nor know about? Think please... Then call me out again.
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I think its because my stirrups are a tad long. New saddle so havent adjusted. I was def not using his mouth to stabilize. This horse has an extremely hard mouth. Also he has a tendency to duck out of the jumps and I am just getting my confidence back so I made him approach slower. He also has a tendency to flatten out too much and go through the jump if I push him too much

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Look... Im going to be honest here... If you're just out to do it for "fun" with absolutely no training, stop it.

When you quoted this comment from me:
Nope :) just for fun! I don't want to be great at it, just to be able to say I can and survive. You see, when I let my horse go to a retirement home, I lost all my nerve for jumping. It has taken a long time for Harley and I to get to this point. Before Harley came this spring, I hadn't jumped in about 2 yrs and have never had any jumping lessons at all. I was just curious to see how my jumping was after having straight dressage and never having a jumping lesson and barely jumping at all

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I think its because my stirrups are a tad long. New saddle so havent adjusted. I was def not using his mouth to stabilize. This horse has an extremely hard mouth. Also he has a tendency to duck out of the jumps and I am just getting my confidence back so I made him approach slower. He also has a tendency to flatten out too much and go through the jump if I push him too much

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Look... Im going to be honest here... If you're just out to do it for "fun" with absolutely no training, stop it.

When you quoted this comment from me:
Nope :) just for fun! I don't want to be great at it, just to be able to say I can and survive. You see, when I let my horse go to a retirement home, I lost all my nerve for jumping. It has taken a long time for Harley and I to get to this point. Before Harley came this spring, I hadn't jumped in about 2 yrs and have never had any jumping lessons at all. I was just curious to see how my jumping was after having straight dressage and never having a jumping lesson and barely jumping at all
You named basically one circumstance several times. Never did you tell your financial stance, your view on the true nature, ect. On the subject, which is where you got upset with me in the first place. I don't know you, I don't know your horse, I don't know your situation. All I know is what I hear and what I saw. So please, don't take it like you're taking it. You put something in the critique section, I gave my view. And you jumped on me. Please, "speak soft and carry a big stick." (-Theodore Roosevelt.) just try and take what people like me and everyone else has said and try it. Ya know, maybe I don't know anything. Maybe I've been jumping for 8 years and havent learned the safe way. Since you have shown that you think that is the case, then feel free to throw accusations at me. But it is not the reality, if you don't like what im saying, stop pouncing and getting defencive against me. It will not make my oppinion change, nor will it help your jumping. Im not trying to start anything, and im trying to be very straight forward with you. Please stop attacking me for things I didnt know about you, and my own oppinions. Thank you.
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You named basically one circumstance several times. Never did you tell your financial stance, your view on the true nature, ect. On the subject, which is where you got upset with me in the first place. I don't know you, I don't know your horse, I don't know your situation. All I know is what I hear and what I saw. So please, don't take it like you're taking it. You put something in the critique section, I gave my view. And you jumped on me. Please, "speak soft and carry a big stick." (-Theodore Roosevelt.) just try and take what people like me and everyone else has said and try it. Ya know, maybe I don't know anything. Maybe I've been jumping for 8 years and havent learned the safe way. Since you have shown that you think that is the case, then feel free to throw accusations at me. But it is not the reality, if you don't like what im saying, stop pouncing and getting defencive against me. It will not make my oppinion change, nor will it help your jumping. Im not trying to start anything, and im trying to be very straight forward with you. Please stop attacking me for things I didnt know about you, and my own oppinions. Thank you.
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Im not saying you have no experience. Difference is, other people on here were being nice. You seem to have somewhat of an attitude. I have dealt with snobs from the minute I put a foot in the stirrup about 10 years ago. Excuse me for being intolerant when someone rubs me the wrong way. Being straightforward doesn't mean being sarcastic towards me either. Im not expecting people to pat me on the back. I just want respectful and supportive answers. But you felt the need to start being sarcastic and disrespectful

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Being a long time jumper and rider for 14 years, I too have delt with snobbs, and I honestly am not one of them. I could be alot more crude toward you right now, and honestly at this point im using a lot of restraint not to be, but lets just meet in the middle and say this. You don't like me, and im quitting your thread and hoping you get some jumping sense before you get hurt. Mkay? HYDB*
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I think we need to remember the internet can make it difficult to really tell the emotion behind the words.
I think everyone should be aware of this- it can help us word things to be sure we don't offend people (unless that's what you're looking to do) and help us read everything with a great big grain of salt. Realize it's just someone on the other end of a computer and not take anything negative to heart.

I think the best thing to do is if we can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all. We all have to realize that when we say anything negatively it's not going to be taken well... it's not like you're going to say something rudely to someone and they're just going to go "Oh you're right I should do it your way". But sometimes if we word things nicely and aim at educating and helping people in a more open, gentle fashion you can make more progress that way. :)

We also have to remember that what someone types on the internet may have been said with the most positive intentions, but when typed out with no emotion it can come off very different. So we need to remember not to add emotions that aren't always what was intended.
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Being a long time jumper and rider for 14 years, I too have delt with snobbs, and I honestly am not one of them. I could be alot more crude toward you right now, and honestly at this point im using a lot of restraint not to be, but lets just meet in the middle and say this. You don't like me, and im quitting your thread and hoping you get some jumping sense before you get hurt. Mkay? HYDB*
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excuse me for not taking you seriously. There is a rider in my town that has no jumping experience at all yet jumps a horse western in a 7 in shank bit though to prevent her from popping the horse in the mouth at the canter, she has to hold the saddle horn. I am NOT causing harm LMFAO

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excuse me for not taking you seriously. There is a rider in my town that has no jumping experience at all yet jumps a horse western in a 7 in shank bit though to prevent her from popping the horse in the mouth at the canter, she has to hold the saddle horn. I am NOT causing harm LMFAO
Just because someone else does it worse, doesn't mean what we do is right. It's unfortunate people that uneducated ride horses. I'm glad you decided to seek help - you've come a long way from where you were before and I'm sure if you practice ignoring negative things and focusing on being receptive to positive help you'll go much further too.
There are a number of things you can do to improve your jumping - it sounds like your well on your way :)
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I would say I have come a long way, too. For like 5 years I did nothing but walk. I was scared to death of TROTTING. I jumped on and off for about a year with trainers watching from facebook. Ones that WOULD say something if I was doing something harmful for my horse. That is why I find it a load of crap that someone would tell me otherwise. Its a bit dramatic. Im being safe. SOFT and LOW jumps approaching them SLOWLY and wearing a helmet. AND using proper tack
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