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post #1 of 17 Old 11-14-2011, 12:38 PM Thread Starter
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Horse/Rider Crit. Please

These pictures were taken this August in a training lvl test. Please critique both me and Frank. I apologize that these aren't the greatest for a critique but any in put is welcomed.







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post #2 of 17 Old 11-14-2011, 12:57 PM
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Well i cant give much of a critique here, but i LOVE Frank! Ooo <3 and that last pic is beautiful with the lighting

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^Hehe thanks! My mom had gotten a huge professional camera and she was trying it out at this show and I loved the way the pictures came out! Since it was early morning the sunlight/shadows made for AWESOME pictures!
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*bump* Any takers? I realize that these pictures aren't the best for a critique but if someone could just critique from what they see would be great.
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post #5 of 17 Old 11-14-2011, 06:58 PM
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I think you guys looks great! I want to steal your pad LOL
I think you need to drop your stuirrups a hole or two so you can drive him better with your seat, in the first picture (free walk) he isnt really reaching from behind, the last pictures is the best, he is using his hind end, realxed trough the shoulder to poll. I would also maybe say realxe your arms a bit more up through your shoulders, reach down through your heal more and open your hips, this will also help him stay forward off your leg. All minor adjustemnts, all things I am working on now as well!

Looking great! keep up the good work!
Just wondering what did you get on your test? How did you feel like you and your horse did?
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post #6 of 17 Old 11-14-2011, 07:19 PM
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wow amazing! you guys are good pair!!!!
The thing that i realised the most is in the last pic your hands are low and a tad resisting. if you bring your hands more up and forward it will help your horse move with more forward motion! nice position btw!! love your horse super sweet!!!

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post #7 of 17 Old 11-14-2011, 07:24 PM
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Was he ridden another discipline previously? Perhaps western pleasure?

I ask because he's pretty seriously behind the bit. Even in the free walk photos, where he should be strecthing forward and down, he's keeping his nose tucked well behind the vertical. The best photo is the third photo, but even in that one, he's slightly behind the vertical and the contact is tentative at best.

In none of the photos is he reaching up under himself correctly from behind.

I would forget about riding tests for a while and work on freely forward, and once you have forward well established, reintroduce contact, making sure to keep the forward. He strikes as being a tricky horse to ride correctly as he'll probably have a tendency to go behind the bit very easily.

Agree with the earlier comment about dropping your stirrup a hole.

He is an eye-catching, flashy horse, beautifully turned out and presented.
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post #8 of 17 Old 11-14-2011, 07:42 PM Thread Starter
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Was he ridden another discipline previously? Perhaps western pleasure?

I ask because he's pretty seriously behind the bit. Even in the free walk photos, where he should be strecthing forward and down, he's keeping his nose tucked well behind the vertical. The best photo is the third photo, but even in that one, he's slightly behind the vertical and the contact is tentative at best.

In none of the photos is he reaching up under himself correctly from behind.

I would forget about riding tests for a while and work on freely forward, and once you have forward well established, reintroduce contact, making sure to keep the forward. He strikes as being a tricky horse to ride correctly as he'll probably have a tendency to go behind the bit very easily.

Agree with the earlier comment about dropping your stirrup a hole.

He is an eye-catching, flashy horse, beautifully turned out and presented.
Yes! You are so right. Previous to me owning him, he was broke in a severe correction bit (the type intended for advanced horses) and the rider tried to train him (by herself, with no trainer or exprienced horseperson to help her) to be a reiner. The girl taught him so many bad habits, starting with going behind the verticle, which lead to running backward and then lead to him rearing. She didn't know that is was most likely the bit and her training techinque that caused him to miss behave. I got him for free and got past the rearing and running backwards but the going behind the verticle is an ongoing issue I haven't been able to get him past. I've worked with two trainers and it really is hard getting past that, and you are correct, he is EXTREMELY difficult to ride. The best way I can describe it, is like riding a horse with no head (as bad as that sounds) because I have to work ten times as hard to get him going where I want him. Even my trainer rode him and told me he is the hardest horse she has ever ridden.
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Maura and Klassic said what I would say. That he is behind the bit and needs work on just going forward, and then slowly get him to accept "honest" contact with the bit. The saddle looks too big for you. Lowering the stirrup one hole would be good, but don't overdo it. Because, in none of those pictures do you really have your weight down and through your ankle and tinto the stirrup. If you lower too much, you will not have that weight down and through the stirrup. Better to work on putting more weight down into the heel/ankle and /or look at a smaller saddle.

Your position is not bad and your turnout is exquisite!
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post #10 of 17 Old 11-14-2011, 09:55 PM
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To me, it almost looks like you are squeezing with your knees, causing your leg to swing back and your heel to be up or level. Your hands look like they're in your lap, and the angle in your arms is pretty straight. So I would work on bringing your arms up and back. Remember, you are a waitress, and you don't want to drop your "tray". (Thank my instructor for that one). You also seem to be slouching a bit- remember to sit up tall, shoulders back.
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