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post #31 of 54 Old 03-20-2008, 04:48 PM Thread Starter
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sadly no one was riding with me so I couldn't get any videos of my riding Sonny...but I did get a couple of him being lunged. I'll get videos of my riding Sonny on Saturday because I'll have someone to film it.

I took over 400 pictures today so give me like 30 minutes for them to all load to the computer, then maybe an hour to get them all on the comp
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http://s263.photobucket.com/albums/i...fSpring001.flv
^^Free lunging

Here's one video
I do have another one, but my computer hates me today so it's not letting me upload the other one. Will try again tomorrow.
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I see short stepping with the right front in the first 2 trot videos the most. I would say it looks like lameness.
No offense but he looks alot better in the riding videos from before you got him. I wouldn't have said they were the same horse.
No offense again but just cause a horse (or a dog or anything) is flinchy doesn't mean it was abused. I have people come to my dog grooming shop all the time saying 'oh my dog is scared to be groomed, his first groomer must have abused him' But that's rarely the case. Don't shout abuse unless you have some facts. Pet peeve of mine sorry.
It is a cute horse tho, hope you have a great time with her
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I don't see how he is moving downhill. Is that possible to run on a straight surface and be downhill? I do see sort of halfstepping as well...

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I see short stepping with the right front in the first 2 trot videos the most. I would say it looks like lameness.
No offense but he looks alot better in the riding videos from before you got him. I wouldn't have said they were the same horse.
No offense again but just cause a horse (or a dog or anything) is flinchy doesn't mean it was abused. I have people come to my dog grooming shop all the time saying 'oh my dog is scared to be groomed, his first groomer must have abused him' But that's rarely the case. Don't shout abuse unless you have some facts. Pet peeve of mine sorry.
It is a cute horse tho, hope you have a great time with her
he's definitely not lame now...and he didn't appear to be that day when I recorded the videos. I always lunge him before hand to make sure he's not lame, and also to see how his attitude will be that day.

Well one difference to him back then, to now, was that there was a professional riding him...professionals can make ANY horse look good.

Yes flintching isn't always a result of abuse, but there's other stuff that he's done that gave me that idea. He was gelded at 7 years old, and I have no contact what-so-ever with the first owner so heaven knows what type of a man he was.
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I have no contact what-so-ever with the first owner so heaven knows what type of a man he was.
I've only contacted Vega's first owner once, to ask her if Vega was tested for hypp. She didn't seem the least bit concerned about it, nor did she seem concerned that her horse was now living in NJ(she was originally from Wisconsin I believe). I had sent her recent photos and haven't heard back from her since. Some people I guess just don't care where their horses are now or what's going on with them. I wouldn't just to conclusions with his first owner.

Blu-i used to ride a pony that would canter down hill, even on a flat straight surface, so i'm guessing it is possible. But I think a horse could also appear downhill when moving if they are heavy on the forehand.

Sonny-is there a way that you can lunge him in a round pen, or have him on a lunge line? You might be able to see if he's short stepping because you'll be able to control his gaits a bit more. Unless he is voice command trained. See if you can get him to trot instead of just cantering around.

Correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't any sort of lameness or stiffness more prevalent in the trot than at the walk and trot? Isn't that why when the vets to lameness exams they make the horse trot, instead of walking or cantering?
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I have no contact what-so-ever with the first owner so heaven knows what type of a man he was.
I've only contacted Vega's first owner once, to ask her if Vega was tested for hypp. She didn't seem the least bit concerned about it, nor did she seem concerned that her horse was now living in NJ(she was originally from Wisconsin I believe). I had sent her recent photos and haven't heard back from her since. Some people I guess just don't care where their horses are now or what's going on with them. I wouldn't just to conclusions with his first owner.

Blu-i used to ride a pony that would canter down hill, even on a flat straight surface, so i'm guessing it is possible. But I think a horse could also appear downhill when moving if they are heavy on the forehand.

Sonny-is there a way that you can lunge him in a round pen, or have him on a lunge line? You might be able to see if he's short stepping because you'll be able to control his gaits a bit more. Unless he is voice command trained. See if you can get him to trot instead of just cantering around.

Correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't any sort of lameness or stiffness more prevalent in the trot than at the walk and trot? Isn't that why when the vets to lameness exams they make the horse trot, instead of walking or cantering?
The roundpen is all icky at the moment with mud, and rocks...I'll need to clean it out before I use it. I can lunge him on a line...but it's having someone there to film. I will try to do that tomorrow when I go up as long as I have someone to film.

Did he appear short stepped in that lunging video.

And yes, horses who are lame will usually show it in a trot...but I do know a horse that, when he gets lame, he shows it at both a walk and trot...so it really depends. The horse that also shows it at a walk as navicular also so that might explain why he limps during a walk. It will be more prevalent at the trot, than the walk and canter...at least that's what I've always been told from vets.

The only reason I free lunge him is because he enjoys it so much better and he still does "usually" go in circles around me. But I will put a lunge line on him and do it that way
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He does seem short strided.

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He does seem short strided.
I'm still pretty unsure of what exactly "short strided" means. I know it's kinda like stiffness, but I'm not seeing it. Is it having to due with how his knees bend and such?

I know he never really bent his knees too much, but the vet said that was due to being out of shape...hardly any muscles...and not being ridden frequently enough.
She also said that with constant work, muscle building, and stuff he'll learn to lift his legs up more.

I'll put some ground poles all around the arena and have him walk over them constantly...that will teach him to pick up his feet.
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also what can I do to make him not so short strided....or is that just "him" (meaning no way of fixing it). I'll do lots of stretching with him, and walk/trot him over really low cross rails, ground poles,....what other stuff works him to keep his legs up high?
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