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    05-13-2012, 09:39 PM
Hunter Round Critique

I'd appreciate any thoughts on my hunter round this Saturday. Watching the video I see that my lower leg needs to come back a little and I need to get more collected between the fences.
May 12 2012 - Horse Show-Hunter 1 - YouTube

Also I was told not to do simple changes in the ring by a person at the show. They said I would be better off on the wrong lead then coming down to the trot. That is seems crazy to me, but I haven't shown much recently.
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    05-13-2012, 09:52 PM
Originally Posted by Sophie19    

Also I was told not to do simple changes in the ring by a person at the show. They said I would be better off on the wrong lead then coming down to the trot. That is seems crazy to me, but I haven't shown much recently.
Haven't watched the video yet, but this seems nuts to me! I've always been taught that simple changes, even trotting for a little longer than you'd like, is definitely preferable to staying on the wrong lead. I've also been taught that if your horse picks up the wrong lead, taking him back to a trot to fix it will be scored better than cantering along on the incorrect lead.
    05-13-2012, 10:57 PM
Adressing the canter leads - Haven't watched the video yet, will post once I do, but whoever told you that is wrong, and honestly, I think they just said that just in case you were in her class, so that she could beat you. Don't believe that for a second. Trot to change is MILES better than no change. Put yourself in the judges shoes - would you place a kid higher that knew she had to change leads, or one that appeared she didn't know her leads at all?
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    05-13-2012, 11:12 PM
Yes, that's correct. Doing simple changes are a prelude to flying changes. If you're letting your horse canter on the incorrect lead, you're teaching them that that's the correct way to canter. I did the hunter B & A circuit for years and it's more favorable to a judge if you do a simple change rather than canter on the incorrect lead because it shows that you know and can feel your leads.

As far as have a lovely horse and for the most part you are a quiet rider. You're correct in that your lower leg needs to come back in between fences (lots of no stirrup work and two point will help that), but when you jump, your leg swings back too far. You need to work on distributing your weight down your body and into your heels. Not forcing your heels down, but simply transferring your weight so that your heels become your anchors. Also, you are a bit slow to come back after your horse lands, you continue to lean forward a few strides away from the fence which leaves you not in control right after the fence. This won't hurt you in a course like this, but as you progress and move up to more challenging courses (combinations, tighter turns, etc), you will need to be able to sit up and regain control as soon as your horse lands.

The second jump, you were anticipating it too much and leaned forward way before the jump. If your horse had refused, you probably would have gone right over his head. This caused him to lean forward and jump flat. You need to work on letting your horse do the jumping and closing your hip angles for you. Throwing yourself forward will only cause him to get too much on his forehand which could lead to chipping in a stride before takeoff, refusing, or knocking down the jump.

All in all though, you did a great job!
    05-13-2012, 11:53 PM
Okay, watched the video ;)

Here is what I notice -

- Heels down!
- chair seat
- ahead of your horse.

Addressing each -

Heels down - just keep working at it, really.

Chair seat - I would try loosening your stirrups just one hole. That did it for me ;) Otherwise, I would do some work with NO stirrups, and bareback.

Ahead of the jump - I would try the following excersizes -

- No stirrup jumping ... hate it, but it does help...
- close your eyes as you come to the jump. Just make sure you have a strong leg foundation,! I also heavily recommend riding with a halter for this - even the best can, and will catch their horse in the mouth in this excersize. No peeking! It will force you not to anticipate ;)

Also, if possible, see if you can ride a horse not as willing, maybe even one that will refuse completely if you don't ride every stride. This kind of horse breaks you of anticipating REAL quick ;)

Hope that helps ;) Mind me asking how high?
    05-14-2012, 01:45 AM
Jump height is 2'6. Thanks for all the advice guys. It's tough having no trainer, horse forum gives me things to work on between shows.
    05-15-2012, 08:58 PM
Your legs are swinging around a bit over the fences. About 3 strides out, think hug and squeeze with each canter stride. Really get that lower leg on as you approach the fence. I like your horse. He's got a very relaxed manner to him.
    05-15-2012, 11:42 PM
Beyond the heels, chairseat and jumping ahead, the other thing I noticed is you don't actively ride all of your fences. This is usually combined with your jumping ahead. Each fence that you actively rode, you had a nice distance and didn't jump up on your horse's neck.

Start working on your dressage between fences. You want to set a good forward cadence and let the fences come to you. Bending properly around turns will help you get a nicer approach of the corner, less scrambling and looks much nicer.

As for the simple changes... you now know that person was full of poop. It's always better to change. Just don't rush them or it looks sloppy. Prepare your horse for the transition and change.
    05-23-2012, 05:25 PM
I saw you hanging on his mouth in one of the lines, you looked really tense. If your trying to slow him down you can check and release, horses don't learn from presure they learn from the release of presure. As for whoever told you that going on the wrong lead is OK is WRONG. Never ok, unless asked to do so (counter canter). You have the base, all you have to do is build it up. No sturrups will help loads but keep in mind that if you arn't balanced in the saddle with sturrups then go back to basics, especially since your jumping ahead. I had an a case of jumping ahead once, and it casued my horse to front flip over an oxer. Not fun. Really work on balance, balance is the key! I believe that jumping without sturrups is a magnificant way to strengthin your talent, but I think you should work on balalncing first. I hope you have great luck! :)

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