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post #21 of 33 Old 10-11-2011, 08:59 PM
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My job is to "train" .
Sorry, this is absolute crap. Any self respecting trainer, or a smart one at all would know better than to do this to a 2 year old.

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post #22 of 33 Old 10-11-2011, 09:35 PM
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He's a very cute horse who seems like he is trying very hard for you.

You've jumped him once or twice a month, I assume full courses to prepare for the show? And he's been to at least three shows, which usually consist of several classes, and possibly more than one day of showing, which is fairly stressful on a horse that hasn't been properly and gradually built up to that degree of work.

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And yeah, you think you're right and I think I am. Who cares? Not everyone is going to agree with you.
The difference being that several people have chimed in with views that are similar to Blush's, and I haven't seen one person say, "Oh yes, ErikaLynn. Jumping full 2'3" courses on a 3-year-old on a consistent basis is a great idea (or even just an okay idea)!"

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Why dont you go preach to race horse owners that start training horses to race at 2 years old.
Because race horse owners aren't posting here asking for critique of their training methods. Your riding is training, so you claim, which you asked for a critique of. Your choice to ride him at this age is part of your method of training.

I will say that you The one thing you are right about is:
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"...and I have to live with that."
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post #23 of 33 Old 10-11-2011, 09:43 PM Thread Starter
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Ok. I'm sorry for bring a rude brat. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. So say whatever. I'm not trying to persuade anyone into my way of thinking.

FYI I'm not a trainer. (that's why the word train was in quotes). I ride sale horses get them going get them sold. I don't see it as a problem jumping a 3 year old. That's my opinion. To be blunt, I don't care who thinks it's wrong. Not everyone is going to agree with me. But if everyone agreed with everyone then life would be boring.

I am sorry for getting defensive.
I get it. So enough with jumping a 3 year old please. Thanks.
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post #24 of 33 Old 10-12-2011, 12:19 AM
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The girl only wanted a crit. jesus people.
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post #25 of 33 Old 10-12-2011, 07:16 AM
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Why don't you ACTUALLY give her one then, instead of complaining about ours?
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But none of you people really gave me a critique either. I always thought a critique was constructive criticism, then maybe some suggestions on how to get better. All you guys did was gang up on me and attack me and told me how wrong I am and how this horse is ruined. . What you guys did I consider just plain mean.

I apologized 2 times for being rude and defensive. Still people gang up. That's why this forum sucks. It's like if you don't think how everyone else thinks, you're wrong and then 12 people gang up on you.
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post #27 of 33 Old 10-12-2011, 04:36 PM
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But none of you people really gave me a critique either. I always thought a critique was constructive criticism, then maybe some suggestions on how to get better. All you guys did was gang up on me [...]
Plenty of critiques and suggestions on how to improve were offered:

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Okay, a few things. First I really like this horse and his attitude. He doesn't rush up to a fence nor does he seem reluctant at all.
That being said, I'd really like to see you give him more of a release over the fences. In the photo, there is a slight one, but not enough for the height of the jump he's going over, and in the video (which I know you said was from a while ago) there is basically none at all. This can cause all types of problems, but especially when you get to going over larger fences, a lack of release can actually pull him down while he's going over and cause injury. Also, when you give him his head while he's jumping, then he will be more inclined to flex and give you a nice frame in between. The other thing is your leg. When you are cantering, it wiggles and when you are trotting it is everywhere! The leg should be still, no matter if you are posting or cantering. A good way to build leg strength is posting without stirrups and standing at the trot. You will be amazed at how much better your ride will be without all of those extra unintentional cues you give him every time your leg bumps him. [...]
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[...] I'd take him back to working over ground poles and super fine-tune him with groundwork and not seriously jump him again until he got to be about 5yo, and his bones were set. I'd probably set up some semi-permanent cross bars at my gates so that he'd have to jump them (sans rider) coming in from the pasture, and change the small jumps, for interest. I would ride him hours on end at a walk. People forget that a natural extended walk is one of the best ways to muscle up your horse without straining muscles and legs.
You ride very well.
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[...]you can tell how immature the horse is in the video. He is not physically mature enough to jump and it shows with his lack of coordination, lack of direction and "yearling look". Even without your 3 year old description, I would guess this horse to not be over 4. He really is a lovely horse and will be extremely cute when he grows up[...]
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[...]This horse is just not that great and I will attribute it to his age. He is gangly and unbalanced, cannot consistently find his distances, and is sloppy over fences. I do think that with time and some dressage work, he will have potential. [...]
If you do not believe these are critiques and/or suggestions, please explain what disqualifies them from being such.
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Enough with telling me how wrong I am...if it's not the horses age, its my reply's to people. Jeez..this forum is really ridiculous.

Along with those reply's are mean comments about how wrong I am, and pretty much saying my way of thinking is stupid.

All of those reply's focused more on how "stupid" I am for jumping a 3 year old. If what you quoted was all they said in their reply's then I wouldn't be so upset right now.
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Can someone please delete this thread.
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post #30 of 33 Old 10-12-2011, 04:56 PM
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Enough with telling me how wrong I am...if it's not the horses age, its my reply's to people. Jeez..this forum is really ridiculous.

Along with those reply's are mean comments about how wrong I am, and pretty much saying my way of thinking is stupid.

All of those reply's focused more on how "stupid" I am for jumping a 3 year old. If what you quoted was all they said in their reply's then I wouldn't be so upset right now.
No, I didn't mean to imply that you were an idiot, and I can understand how you would feel you were being attacked by some of the statements (that I purposefully did not quote).

However, I didn't think it was quite right to disregard the critiques and suggestions that you did get. Even if you don't totally agree with or utilize all the suggestions, people were still taking their time to type them out for you in response to your request for them. That's all!
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