I am in love!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry for the misunderstanding. I just cant understand paying for color. I saw a 2-3 year old beautiful palomino filly babcock Smart chic Olena daughter already started in reining go for 1500 last Nov. So, yeah that horse is not worth the money to me.

I never called anyone mean. If they dont want to sell the horse at the price offered than thats fine. Have fun feeding him. lol

I have an idea if they want 3000 for him but you can only go up to 2500 see if they will work out a payment plan for you on the additional 500. Its worth a shot IMHO. I also agree that them hauling him closer for you is a step of graciousness in their part. ALSO if I were you Id ask for the phone number and speak directly to the seller (the dad) and stop talking to the daughter, shes not the one who can come down on price or anything. I know a lot of ppl will accept payments expecially since you would be putting the bulk down. You probably wont be able to get Taz for a little while until you pay him off but at least you would get a horse you want and not be settling for the bay that you really arent wanting. Its worth a shot keep us posted

Crimson, I know you didn't call anyone mean, I was referring to the OP, who seems to take it as a personal affront that these people haven't jumped on her lowball offer.

Meh, people can ask anything they want for a horse, but that doesn't mean they'll get it.

Sure, if the horse is still on their feed bill by December, they may very well take $2,000 for him. Heck, they might even take $1,500!

I don't buy for color. Conformation and temperament are the first two important considerations, followed by general health, and any vices. Color runs dead last in my list of 'must haves'. As they say, a good horse is never a bad color!

Of course, I wouldn't turn down a black and white half Arabian pinto if one fell in my lap!

I certainly do not buy for color either. I was just saying that MANY people do. That is why there are so many back yard crap color breeders that manage to sell their poorly put together horses that came out pretty colors.

Agreed, Always.

Some people breed only for color, which is why you see so many illformed, fugly horses going to auction.

I now have my favorite color, but it was a fluke. I picked him on his conformation and temperament. Had he been a plain bay, I'd still have brought him home. But he's a chestnut with chrome, so that's just a bonus!

To be fair, and there is a good chance I'm off my rocker, I took an offer of $3500 on a mare I had for sale for $5000, because it was the perfect home for her.

Which is fine.

I think the point SR is trying to make is not that you can not low ball an offer. It is that when your low ball offer is not taken with open arms you have no right to act like the seller is not being fair.

Aaaaahhhhhhhh! *ding, the light goes on* gotcha.

Exactly.

You can offer what you want, but don't be insulted if the seller says "Pass!", especially if they've already told you the lowest they're willing to go.

I've always gone by the 85% rule; if you really, really, really want the horse, offer the seller 85% of the purchase price. It works that way for vehicles, too!

O my god, im not insulted that the seller said no, hell i expected them to say no. Im just disapointed even though i expected it! $2500 is more than a fair offer for this horse, he is not fully broke and around here they will be lucky to sell him for that. I dont care about percentages, im gonna offer what i want to offer, if they dont like it fine dont take it, ill move on. Like when this person finally emails me back about my other offer and if he says no, ill move on. NOw if the horse was at $5000 no i wouldnt offer 2grand im not stupid. I dont think this horse is worth $3500 on looks. And with them trailering him over here, there coming over here anyways, so its really not that much of a problem. There coming over here for a roping competition. And they have many friends over here were the horse can stay at for free.