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        01-16-2011, 01:11 PM
      #41
    Green Broke
    Hmm. I don't see what is so wrong about requesting to contact a farrier or vet. Frankly a vet reference and neighbor reference are REQUIRED on any puppy I raise and sell (and I am a breeder. Not a rescue.) And references ARE checked. If I didn't get a satisfactory response from vet or neighbor, the puppy would not be available to the applicant. Because pet over population is already a problem, it's my responsibility as an owner and breeder to make CERTAIN my dogs are not going to go to homes where they are going to be dumped off at a shelter 6 months later.

    Cori, I too am shocked about the backlash against adoption on here.

    Of course no one wants their lives invaded - but why would you object to having a vet or farrier contacted, unless you didn't have one, or they wouldn't have anything good to say about you?

    It's my belief that every member of the equine community has some responsibility in the rescue of horses. It's a rescue's job to make sure a horse doesn't go right back into the same situation they were rescued from.

    To bash rescue in general because there are some bad rescues out there (and yes, there are. But not ALL of them, in fact I wouldn't say even as much as half of them.) is doing a grave disservice to the horse community as a whole. Where does the responsibility lay, to these animals, in picking up the pieces when they have been abused, neglected, or harmed by their previous owners......well, it doesn't fall on the shoulders of the urban governing bodies, I assure you. It falls on you, and me. Even if there's nothing else you can give a valid rescue beyond verbal support, you all owe them that, at least.

    To the OP, the club foot looks severe enough I would not pursue the horse as a gaming prospect, if that is your intentions. He would probably be a perfectly serviceable light-riding mount, but I wouldn't want to stress an already problematic foot to the degree gaming involves. You can find better, particularly at your price point.
         
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        01-16-2011, 01:49 PM
      #42
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    You pay your vets and farriers for their time. Asking them for a reference really shouldn't be an imposition. Most of the time, they just need your phone number and for you to call ahead and allow the vet/farrier to discuss the way you vet your animals.

    I know that some rescues really make it a hassle to adopt. Imagine how protective you would be over an animal that you had brought back from a horrible situation. Loved and cared for that animal for months...maybe even years. When you adopt that horse out, you want to make sure that horse is getting the best possible home available.

    For the record, the last horse I sold I asked for vet/farrier/3 references from. He was far from a rescue and I really couldn't afford to wait to sell him but I did. Once I made all the phone calls and visited her farm, I agreed to sell him. Maybe I am too protective of horses but I see what happens when you aren't.
         
        01-16-2011, 02:01 PM
      #43
    Green Broke
    I think it's funny that you guys think it's EXTREMELY HARD to adopt from a rescue. I'm pre-approved to adopt through Frog Pond Draft.

    I filled in a two page application. They contacted my references, vet and farrier. I was very honest about everything. Sent pictures to them of my pasture and barn via e-mail. About a week later they contacted me and said that I could pick a horse out and bring in a signed copy of the application that I filed. It wasn't hard to do at all.

    A few years ago I was approved through New Vocations who does ex-race horses. It wasn't hard at all either.
         
        01-16-2011, 02:10 PM
      #44
    Foal
    Here is a website you can look at.... dreamhorse.com ... There are a lot of horses there. Good Luck!!
         
        01-16-2011, 02:33 PM
      #45
    Green Broke
    Oh, I'm not opposed to adopting from rescues. I think that handled properly, it's a great thing. I have recommended to several clients that wanted a pleasure type horse to look at the rescues first. I know there are good places out there that help as many as they can, while still being reasonable.

    But having said that, most rescues (not all, but most) have a certain area or distance that they will adopt to. And when the rescues within your specific mile radius make it so difficult, and the others say you are too far away, it's hard not to end up cynical. I am all for vet and farrier reference checks, have done them myself, but (at least around here) when a half dozen different people have to inspect you, your other animals, and your property, because there is no internal communication, and if ONE of them decides that because you scratch your nose the wrong way, that you aren't fit to adopt, or they decide that 5 or 10 years down the road (since our local rescue has the stipulation that they can do random spot checks for the life of the horse without warning) they want to pop in, and then if they decide they don't like something you are doing, can just take away a horse that you have invested years on, well, that makes it hard for everyone else. Personally, I'd hate to think that someone could just show up at my farm, unannounced and demand to see a horse that I adopted years ago, and have the knowledge that they could come right back with a trailer if we had too much mud or not enough bedding to suit them.

    I will say it again though. NOT ALL RESCUES ARE LIKE THIS, but I would hesitate to adopt from one that was. It is up to the buyer, or the adopter to do their due diligence and weigh all the options.
         
        01-16-2011, 05:40 PM
      #46
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    Originally Posted by ShutUpJoe    
    Club foot is where the horses hoof grows straighter than normal.
    Ahhh...I didn't know that was called club foot. Thanks for informing me.

    As for adoption, I'd rather go through the several page applications, photographing my property, and giving references. It shows me that the adoption place CARES about where the horse will be ending up. Sure its more work to get the horse, but
    1. You don't have to shell out hundreds or thousands of dollars to buy a horse.
    2. You know what you are getting. You could get a horse through a private deal, you don't know what wasn't mentioned about the horse (let alone lied about)
    3. You are helping a horse and a shelter/rescue. Your taking a horse off of their bill, and you are giving a horse a good home.

    I don't see anything wrong with wanting some proof that you are a good horse owner and you have thought adopting a horse through thoroughly.
         
        01-16-2011, 05:53 PM
      #47
    Green Broke
    I agree with it sucking that a rescue only adopts out within so many miles when you have to send them pics or videos of your property anyway. We were very interested in a Percheron gelding in Pennsylvania that is sitting in a rescue and has been there for awhile but they won't adopt out to anyone that is more than 3 hours away. I really like how Frog Pond puts the horses in the best home possible not matter where that may be.
         

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