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        12-07-2011, 12:08 AM
      #11
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    Yeah, I want that horse! (I say that a lot, but he is a good solid all around nice horse)


    I can see that you and he have made a huge improvement. That show was scary. I dont' jump, so I get scared easily at jumping shows.
         
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        12-07-2011, 12:21 AM
      #12
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by tinyliny    
    Yeah, I want that horse! (I say that a lot, but he is a good solid all around nice horse)
    A lot of people online say that, a lot of people in person say that all he is worth is a bullet to the head.

    I guess we have better, open minded people online. He is one of a kind in every way. He carried me nicely through my gymkhana / barrel racing period. We won our share of ribbons, now we're trying to go the jumper/eventing route. He is a model citizen for the term bomb proof, and tolerates anything and everything. He also has some crazy saddling problems (luckily lying inactive right now), is horribly barn sour, would sidestep off a cliff, he has no awareness of where his body is and his surroundings. He has so much go and he is currently around 23 years old. >_>

    I'm stopping myself now...I could talk about him forever.
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        12-07-2011, 01:22 AM
      #13
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    Completely, completely OT, but:
    HDL, can we please start a club called "Crazy Old Horses of HF"? Lacey and Jake could SOOOOOO be best friends.
    I only really watched the "scary show" video and that head shaking/kinda bolting/"turning in a really scary way" stuff is so familiar to me, oh man.

    And his honesty was super familiar too. Lacey's the same way, she'll do everything she can to be as scary as possible (no bucking really, just everything else she can think of), but if I start falling off, it's suddenly model citizen time.
    I think they probably just like scaring the living daylights out of us and then being all "Oh! Just kidding!!"

    I have no critique, at all, for you though. I'm just impressed and amused at how familiar his antics are to me. What a fantastic horse. Haha!
         
        12-07-2011, 11:02 AM
      #14
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by Wallaby    
    Completely, completely OT, but:
    HDL, can we please start a club called "Crazy Old Horses of HF"? Lacey and Jake could SOOOOOO be best friends.
    I only really watched the "scary show" video and that head shaking/kinda bolting/"turning in a really scary way" stuff is so familiar to me, oh man.

    And his honesty was super familiar too. Lacey's the same way, she'll do everything she can to be as scary as possible (no bucking really, just everything else she can think of), but if I start falling off, it's suddenly model citizen time.
    I think they probably just like scaring the living daylights out of us and then being all "Oh! Just kidding!!"

    I have no critique, at all, for you though. I'm just impressed and amused at how familiar his antics are to me. What a fantastic horse. Haha!
    Hahaha. Crazy seniors. It really funny when people can't guess the horses age by just looking at them and their personality. A club should be in order for these extraordinary equines on energy drinks, with no idea to their own age. Horses that have the reckless abandon are quite rare I believe.

    I hope I have that amount of energy when I'm his relative age. We've earned the nickname Reckless and Fearless at the stables I moved to after that show.
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        12-07-2011, 11:17 AM
      #15
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    In the top video (I can't watch the others as my computer is too slow), your lower leg is too far forward and this is seriously putting you out of balance and behind the horses's motion which does look rather stiff (as you mention). Riding without stirrups would really help bring your leg back under you.
         
        12-07-2011, 12:08 PM
      #16
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by Clava    
    In the top video (I can't watch the others as my computer is too slow), your lower leg is too far forward and this is seriously putting you out of balance and behind the horses's motion which does look rather stiff (as you mention). Riding without stirrups would really help bring your leg back under you.
    The top video is the only one that is important. The others are just old ones to compare to.

    Riding without stirrups hasn't helped me, I tend to go into a more chair seat and grip with my knees. That feels more natural then having my legs back. I think more than bringing my legs back, (which I think are in a correct place on the horse, just behind the girth) its more of I need to sit farther up in the saddle instead of back against it. I believe I should also drop a hole for my flat work. Try to line it up a little better.

    Correct me If I'm wrong. That is just what I see think of for placement. Thank you for the critique though.
         
        12-07-2011, 12:16 PM
      #17
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    Originally Posted by Horsesdontlie    
    The top video is the only one that is important. The others are just old ones to compare to.

    Riding without stirrups hasn't helped me, I tend to go into a more chair seat and grip with my knees. That feels more natural then having my legs back. I think more than bringing my legs back, (which I think are in a correct place on the horse, just behind the girth) its more of I need to sit farther up in the saddle instead of back against it. I believe I should also drop a hole for my flat work. Try to line it up a little better.

    Correct me If I'm wrong. That is just what I see think of for placement. Thank you for the critique though.
    Sorry riding without stirrups hasn't helped,that is a trusted old favourite for getting a good heel, hip, shoulder line. Lengthening your stirrups probably will help, but don't go so far that you are reaching too much as that will make you more insecure. If I was standing next to you, I'd grab your thigh , lift it,turn it slightly and bring it back (My RI does this beautifully). I don't think moving your body forward will help much, it is more about bring that leg back so that if the horse magically disappeared, you would land standing up. Hope that helps and good luck.

    Edit - just watched it a bit more - you are pushing your leg forward as you push your heels down, lengthen your stirrups a bit and hold your foot level and bring it back under you. Your heel should be springy and more level and not rammed down.:)
         
        12-07-2011, 12:31 PM
      #18
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    Just watched it a bit more - you are pushing your leg forward as you push your heels down, lengthen your stirrups a bit and hold your foot level and bring it back under you. Your heel should be springy and more level and not rammed down.:)
         
        12-07-2011, 01:43 PM
      #19
    Green Broke
    First, I really like your horse. Not only is he sweet-natured and calm, but he also knows his cues well AND he's flashy!!
    I think we should all remember that riding is a very physical activity. Many of our muscles need to be strengthened before we can isolate our arms and legs from our torsos.
    I agree with half-halts, and I use them always on my horses, if for no other reason then to remind them I'm in charge!
    I'd like to suggest that you strengthen your abs and legs by riding the walk and canter with some slack for awhile. Your horse is trying to keep constant contact on the bit, but your contact isn't steady. If he rushes, you're already in an arena, so just push him faster and tire him out. I don't see him rushing in this video, however, ??
    Try posting the trot with your knuckles on his neck right in front of the pommel. If he sighs, you'll know that you were bumping him in the mouth.
    Try warming up by riding the walk without stirrups and LET YOUR LEGS HANG and wait to speed up until you feel VERY HEAVY in the saddle. It may take a good hour the first time you do it. A good striding walk will warm him up without stressing him, and you'll be more relaxed, more weighted. Keep your thumbs up and push your arms away from you--think straight elbows. This will teach your body to not pull up your knees, pull in your arms and adopt a fetal position, bc that makes you stiff. If he is heavy on the forehand, break up the track by periodically riding over the poles, so he has to raise his forehand and use his haunches.
    One more thing--I've picked you apart, but I really do like your horse, and if you can find a fun cross-training activity to do with him so you're less concerned about your form, I think you'll both improve your riding and improve on your relationship with your horse. =D
         
        12-07-2011, 02:07 PM
      #20
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    Originally Posted by Corporal    
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    Try warming up by riding the walk without stirrups and LET YOUR LEGS HANG and wait to speed up until you feel VERY HEAVY in the saddle. It may take a good hour the first time you do it. A good striding walk will warm him up without stressing him, and you'll be more relaxed, more weighted. Keep your thumbs up and push your arms away from you--think straight elbows. This will teach your body to not pull up your knees, pull in your arms and adopt a fetal position, bc that makes you stiff. If he is heavy on the forehand, break up the track by periodically riding over the poles, so he has to raise his forehand and use his haunches.
    One more thing--I've picked you apart, but I really do like your horse, and if you can find a fun cross-training activity to do with him so you're less concerned about your form, I think you'll both improve your riding and improve on your relationship with your horse. =D

    I am baffled about that. "straight elbows"? You mean no bend in them? To me, that is what promotes the before mentioned problem of having the hand move up and down with the posting rythm, because of a rigid elbow.

    Otherwise, I totally agree with the advice given.
         

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