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    09-02-2011, 09:11 AM
  #11
Yearling
I'd be concerned about his long-term soundness-- how strong can they get before they start to weaken from use? I'd do frequent flexion tests if it were my horse. We had 3 horses at work who have/had dropped pasterns, and one had to be put down because of it.
     
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    09-02-2011, 09:18 AM
  #12
Foal
I really don't want anymore comments, since no one has anything positive to say what so ever, not even that he is a pretty color!! He is a baby I bred, I love him because he is out of my mare that I've owned for 16 years. I tried to breed a nice horse, as my mare has good conformation, and had a successful show career in her younger days. I like the movement of his sire, and thought that he could improve on a couple of things that I wasn't as thrilled about with my mare. But I guess I've bred a piece of junk.
     
    09-02-2011, 09:37 AM
  #13
Green Broke
I know you said you did not want more comments but I will add these.

He is a pretty copper color for sure and I like his head. Appears to be an investigative sort of horse and want to know what is going on and what you are doing which can be very fun. He has a nice open shoulder angle and his hocks appear close to the ground which is very nice.

I like his topline.

That being said (and because no horse is perfect) he has an extremely straight hind leg and I would want to be working him walking up hills a lot. A horse this straight behind MIGHT develop a stifle problem where the stifle can dislocate (and can be pulled back into place when it does). The prevention for this is trotting up hills to strengthen the musculature that supports the stifle and keeps it in place. He is straighter behind than his sire (I took a look..and in a lot of ways your horse is similar to his Daddy).

He does have long pasterns. You have had the vet check this and your farrier is aware of it so only time will tell if they pose a problem or not. I will leave it at that. He is also a bit over at the knee. At the amount he is over this is really a cosmetic problem, not a problem of soundness. I prefer a horse to be a bit over than ever being back at the knee. Considering the concern about his pasterns, being over at the knee may actually help with the shock absorption and spare the pasterns to some extent.

I know a lot of warmblood people want large horses, but I have to say if this boy tops out at 16.1 hands he is big enough. I really think that is an excellent size for both handling and training and soundness.

Conformation critique of your horse is really a mechanical thing. It does not tell you if your horse will excel or not at a specific discipline. One of the ugliest conformed horses of all time (Exterminator) was purchased as a "work horse" to make other race horses run better in training. Exterminator won the Kentucky Derby. John Henry, who raced to almost age 10, was not perfect in conformation by any stretch of imagination. It did not stop him! Seabiscuit raced a good deal of his life with a sand crack that did make him lame. Remember his come back to racing?

Let your boy grow up... and while at it take him for walks and go up a lot of hills to help those stifles. Enjoy him first and foremost (which you seem to be doing).
     
    09-02-2011, 10:02 AM
  #14
Trained
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Originally Posted by mummygirl81    
I really don't want anymore comments, since no one has anything positive to say what so ever, not even that he is a pretty color!! He is a baby I bred, I love him because he is out of my mare that I've owned for 16 years. I tried to breed a nice horse, as my mare has good conformation, and had a successful show career in her younger days. I like the movement of his sire, and thought that he could improve on a couple of things that I wasn't as thrilled about with my mare. But I guess I've bred a piece of junk.


No one said that he wouldn't be usable. No one said that he needed to be put down. You wanted a critique and you got one. He has conformation defects that makes people question how his long-term soundness would be.
     
    09-02-2011, 10:59 AM
  #15
Trained
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Originally Posted by mummygirl81    
I really don't want anymore comments, since no one has anything positive to say what so ever, not even that he is a pretty color!! He is a baby I bred, I love him because he is out of my mare that I've owned for 16 years. I tried to breed a nice horse, as my mare has good conformation, and had a successful show career in her younger days. I like the movement of his sire, and thought that he could improve on a couple of things that I wasn't as thrilled about with my mare. But I guess I've bred a piece of junk.

Just WOW, I know how it is when someone criticizes your baby, but i;s the risk you take when you ask people what they think.

This is the critique area, the 'He's a pretty color' seats are in the 'photos' section.
     
    09-02-2011, 11:03 AM
  #16
Banned
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Originally Posted by mummygirl81    
I really don't want anymore comments, since no one has anything positive to say what so ever,
A confirmation critique doesn't really work like that, it's not about people being mean or kind - it's simply about the confirmation.

If you can't handle that, you probably shouldn't have asked.
     
    09-02-2011, 08:48 PM
  #17
Super Moderator
Mummy,

I am glad to hear that the vet says he doesnt' have that syndrome. When I saw his topline and neck and head (as I scrolled downward) I thought "what a nice looking horse" . It was his hock that stood out as not quite right . So, I guess what that means is that like all horses, he's got some good and some not so good.
I know it must have really hurt your feelings when people expressed what they saw. They only have a picture to go by and they don't know Joey and have love in their heart for him. While you might from now on keep an eye on these points , don't let them for an instant make you think any less of your dear boy.
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    09-03-2011, 10:08 AM
  #18
Banned
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Originally Posted by mummygirl81    
He is a baby I bred, I love him because he is out of my mare that I've owned for 16 years. I tried to breed a nice horse, as my mare has good conformation, and had a successful show career in her younger days. I like the movement of his sire, and thought that he could improve on a couple of things that I wasn't as thrilled about with my mare. But I guess I've bred a piece of junk.
Do you have pictures of your mare and the stallion you bred her to?

Just a matter of curiosity.
     
    09-03-2011, 11:26 AM
  #19
Green Broke
She posted a link to the Stallion.
     
    09-03-2011, 11:48 AM
  #20
Banned
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Originally Posted by Elana    
She posted a link to the Stallion.

Mind SUPPLYING me with it then.
     

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