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        06-26-2012, 11:30 PM
      #11
    Super Moderator
    I liked your second set of photos much more than your first. Your leg position was far better and you were "laying" on your horse far less. You were not jumping ahead of your horse and allowing your lower leg to slip back as much as the first set.

    The second set were the before????
         
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        06-26-2012, 11:58 PM
      #12
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Allison Finch    
    I liked your second set of photos much more than your first. Your leg position was far better and you were "laying" on your horse far less. You were not jumping ahead of your horse and allowing your lower leg to slip back as much as the first set.

    The second set were the before????
    Yes, the second set is from before. I was told, and agree, that in the second set my leg was too straight and jammed out in front of me. Maybe it's just the angle that some of the pictures are taken at that makes it seem like my leg is slipping back?? I'm not sure, but I found that by shortening my stirrups a half hole as suggested I was able to stay with him more...
         
        06-27-2012, 12:04 AM
      #13
    Foal
    Guys... Just to clarify on the automatic release... Umm there are grand prix riders who don't use an automatic release and still use a crest release... So I don't feel like I need to be working on that right now especially since I'm still working on my base of support over the larger fences with him. I agree that it softens in the mouth and keeps a constant connection. But I'm not worried about that right now since he's happy and goes around amazing for me.
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        06-27-2012, 08:18 AM
      #14
    Weanling
    I am in love with your horse..Just a powerhouse over the jumps ( great thing! ) . Your doing a great job
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        06-27-2012, 11:46 AM
      #15
    Foal
    Thank You!!!!
         
        06-27-2012, 02:39 PM
      #16
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    Originally Posted by JumperGurl    
    Guys... Just to clarify on the automatic release... Umm there are grand prix riders who don't use an automatic release and still use a crest release... So I don't feel like I need to be working on that right now especially since I'm still working on my base of support over the larger fences with him. I agree that it softens in the mouth and keeps a constant connection. But I'm not worried about that right now since he's happy and goes around amazing for me.

    There is a difference between an automatic release and a release that doesn't allow you to rest all of your weight on the horse's neck.

    In this photo I have an auto release



    In all honesty, when I'm riding aggressively for time I often use a "crest" release. However, I never actually put my hands on the crest. When you do that you make it almost impossible to give the rein if the horse needs it. It also encourages you to use that for balancing your upper body weight. This makes it way too easy to ride way too forward, ahead of your horse. This can really impact the horse's ability to jump.

    My "crest" release is always on the SIDES of the horse's neck. Darn close to an auto.

         
        06-27-2012, 02:53 PM
      #17
    Foal
    Thanks!

    I know what you mean. But I just want to master my base of support before I begin working on the auto release again which is the correct way of moving myself up to that point.
         
        06-27-2012, 06:18 PM
      #18
    Yearling
    The biggest problem I see is that you're laying on the horse's neck. In a few of the pictures, it also looks like you were leaning to one side and looking at the ground/fence.

    If you want to master your base of support, I'd move down to smaller jumps for a bit and work on keeping a firm, steady base that's off of your horse's neck.

    Otherwise, you seem to be a very solid rider and you're doing pretty good so far! Good luck!
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        06-27-2012, 06:58 PM
      #19
    Foal
    ^^^^ I've mastered my base of support over the smaller jumps. I just started jumping at this level and as you can see my horse is like a crazy round jumper when the jumps are bigger. Over the smaller fences he does't do this and so I was able to master my base of support with that flatter jump. So I think I just need to get used to his bigger jump and then I will be ok.

    And I agree with the laying on his neck a tad...I believe that goes along with my base of support though...I think anyways. If not then I will definitely work on exercises to fix it.

    And then the looking down at the ground...I'm not sure why I was doing that...I really don't do that at all. So it might've just been a slip up? I'm not sure...but I'll be sure to not do that.
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        06-28-2012, 03:40 AM
      #20
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    Here's the problem with trying to fix the base before the release. The release is allowing you to prop up your upper body weight, thereby not requiring a solid base to counterbalance your upper body weight. You see, the lower leg IS the counterbalance. Since you don't rely on your lower leg to balance the upper body, it is slipping back.

    You need to start weaning yourself of that propping up crest release. It will REQUIRE you to bring that lower leg back up to the girth. The further forward your upper body is, the further forward your lower leg must be to counterbalance the upper body.

    Get into your jumping position and hold your arms out like an airplane. Move your lower leg forward until you can maintain that position with the arms out. Then (on a lungeline?) walk, then trot, then canter until that lower leg stays where it needs to be to maintain that position without your hands on the neck.

    Then try jumping a grid where you can ride through with no reins. Put your arms out as you jump.

    This will help develop that strong, base you are looking for.
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