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post #21 of 32 Old 06-28-2012, 09:18 AM
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I hate to jump in again but there is nothing wrong with her position. If anyone watches any big classes her stye is what everyone is trying to do but she doesn't do it in a forced way. Horses who jump like this you can't practice over small jumps bc they don't have that huge jump over them. She is very effective, solid leg, her release is awesome. I think it would be insulting to say go back on the lunge line Ina 2 point. That's just my opinion . I don't know maybe I'm wrong
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post #22 of 32 Old 06-28-2012, 12:48 PM
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I really liked your suggestions Allison, I have done the jumping with no hands and it helped my leg out a lot as well as my staying up off the neck and using my legs to balance so hopefully it can help the OP too.
Mckellar, I don't want to get in the middle of anything but I think what was meant by going back to the 2 pt on the lunge line was only because it was with no hands, if you have no reins its nice to have someone steering with the lunge line for you so you can just work on your position and don't have to worry about your horse going all over the place! Please correct me if im wrong!!
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post #23 of 32 Old 06-28-2012, 12:55 PM
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I'd like to add that you should not be turning your horse while in the middle of the jump. Please wait until the first stride after the jump. ALL jumps should be a straight line. You can practice this with ground poles substituting for a course. You could even borrow somebody else's horse to practice this bc it is a rider fault, NOT a horse fault. You horse is marvelous. He looks very willing and tucks in every photo.
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post #24 of 32 Old 06-28-2012, 10:26 PM
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Your right Poneigh, it is much easier being on a lunge while doing no hands work ;) Also it is always good to go back to being on a lunge doing no hands work to really strengthen your postion. We should all go back to the basics every now and then, it keeps us sharp ;)
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post #25 of 32 Old 06-28-2012, 11:41 PM Thread Starter
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I'd like to add that you should not be turning your horse while in the middle of the jump. Please wait until the first stride after the jump. ALL jumps should be a straight line. You can practice this with ground poles substituting for a course. You could even borrow somebody else's horse to practice this bc it is a rider fault, NOT a horse fault. You horse is marvelous. He looks very willing and tucks in every photo.
I'm sorry, but I completely disagree with you on the turning over a jump. It's a jump off, tight turns are necessary for a blue ribbon. Obviously my horse can completely handle it. And it is not a fault at all. I know how to go straight over a fence. Thank you.

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post #26 of 32 Old 06-29-2012, 01:21 AM
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^^ I agree. At this level of jumping telegraphing your next move in the air is fine... especially to remain competitive.
However, when the jumps get big, you won't get away with it. Although, you don't look like the sort of rider that doesn't already know that.
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^^^^Thank you. I know that it won't work when I get into the four foot level. That's when I would slice a jump instead though.

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I hate to jump in again but there is nothing wrong with her position. If anyone watches any big classes her stye is what everyone is trying to do but she doesn't do it in a forced way. Horses who jump like this you can't practice over small jumps bc they don't have that huge jump over them. She is very effective, solid leg, her release is awesome. I think it would be insulting to say go back on the lunge line Ina 2 point. That's just my opinion . I don't know maybe I'm wrong
I won't get into what you do, or do not, feel is the perfect position. Just because you see people try to perch in the hunter ring doesn't mean that is what you want to do in the jumper ring.

As for thinking it is an insult to go onto a lunge line......let me tell you that olympic level riders will, occasionally, go onto a lunge line to work on their position. My coach would put us on one every month or so. When I rode in a training period with Jack Legoff, all of us went on a lunge. There is no disgrace there and the fact you think so is limiting you.
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I'd like to add that you should not be turning your horse while in the middle of the jump. Please wait until the first stride after the jump. ALL jumps should be a straight line. You can practice this with ground poles substituting for a course. You could even borrow somebody else's horse to practice this bc it is a rider fault, NOT a horse fault. You horse is marvelous. He looks very willing and tucks in every photo.

Sorry, Corporal, but I will strongly disagree. In the hunter ring....maybe. In the jumper ring you are preparing the turn before you even jump the jump ahead of you. You will angle, adjust to set up the turn and, if it is a REALLY tight turn, you HAVE to turn in the air. One stride after the jump and you have missed the turn.



In this photo I had a mild turn after this jump. Even so, you can see that the horse absolutely knows where he is going when he lands. He will land on the proper lead ready to make that turn in a balanced way.
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post #30 of 32 Old 06-29-2012, 01:26 PM
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I am confused as I think your position was much better in the before than after photos.

In both sets of photos you have your toes out, and I think that's all you need to work on in the before photos.

In the after photos, your position is nowhere near as good IMO. You are over jumping and coming out of your saddle too far and you are laying on the horses neck.

I didn't read your other thread, so I don't know what advise you were given - but I would go back to what you were doing before and just work on your toes/heels.
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