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post #1 of 11 Old 08-22-2009, 08:35 PM Thread Starter
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Jumping Critique.

Yes I know im jumping with no contact, kinda a point to that. I don't want to rely on the reins for balence or catch her in the mouth and get in her way. So ATM there is no contact. This is the first time jumping with no contact.

I think my lower leg has gotten better??

Have I Improved at all??



Heres the BEFORE picture.


I taught my self to jump so I would love to know how im doing. I know I need to work on my release, and it the first picture im to far ahead and kinda leaning on her neck.

Any ideas on how to get her tuck better??? THANKS!
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post #2 of 11 Old 08-22-2009, 08:39 PM
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The third pic is the before picture?

Sorry but to be brutally honest I think the before pic looks better. Your leg is in a more solid position and you aren't throwing yourself over the jump (I have the hardest time with that!)

As far as getting her to tuck her knees, try gymnastics. They are a great way to get a horse to be more careful with their legs over fences

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post #3 of 11 Old 08-22-2009, 08:48 PM Thread Starter
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Hm interesting. Good to know.
These jumps were from a canter, and the before picture was from a trot.. so maybe Im more solid at the trot.

Something to work on. It could also be that not having the reins?

Thanks!
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post #4 of 11 Old 08-22-2009, 09:04 PM
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It could very well be. I know that when I jump without reins I tend to get defensive and lean forward more than I normally would.

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post #5 of 11 Old 08-22-2009, 09:08 PM
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Well first of all you need to get some proper shoes to ride in!
You have to have a heel! If I came with flat shoes even to a dressage lesson, I would not be allowed to ride. She (my trainer) simply wont train with me. Its very dangerous! Just as important as a helmet. :)

In the "after-pics" you are throwing yourself forward..! You actually don't have to do much (in a maner of speaking). Just sit back and wait for the jump to come. Have contact with the horse so when the jump comes the horses forpart is free of weight and it puts its weight on its back legs. Then as it lifts its forpart to jump, you simply follow and just kinda stand a bit in your stirrups! You practically don't have to move too much, just follow the horse forward (follow, not throw xD Kinda hard to explain for me..). You put your weight in the stirrups and balance. As you are over the jump, put your hands down so the rein loosens. Don't throw them forward to its neck, as some people do, just put them down on its neck and the release will be there :) So no need to ride with loose reins.

Balance work should be done in dressage work, not in jumping. You should practice standing in your stirrups in walk trot and gallop. Not having contact over jumps isnt very serious, because then your horse is probably not collected (you know, so it can do the whole putting weight in its back legs so it can push off thing)

I'm just giving you a picture of how it should look like.
Its very hard for me to judge on the pictures. I know its mostly your position you are thinking of, but I personally think it almost comes naturally. Half of it is riding the horse right to the jump. Then you will feel it if you're doing something wrong. Either you get left behind or you lean too much forward, and so on. You WILL feel something's wrong and uncomfortable and then its easier to figure out what it is exactly :)

But I think your lower legs do look better, remember bend your knees and don't press your knees to the saddle. You should be able to flap your knees xD
The before pictures doesnt look that bad either just looks like you kinda got left behind a bit.. I dunno.. Just the new pics look better, lets just say that xD

I'd love to see some videos! It looks like a very sweet horse!

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Lol well if you look in the before picture, those are my normal riding wear. Just it was 93 degrees and 2 hot to wear them.

Im thinking since I havent practiced jumping much at the canter I intisapated [sp?!] the jump to much. But I will work on it!

Again loose reins so I would learn not to rely on them when jumping mostly. I see to many people where the second you take away there reins they literally can't jump, even if there great with reins. Get what im saying?

I gripping with my knees here due to the fact I have shorts on and the leathers were really pinching. Usually I grip with my calf.

Thanks so much for the advice ill keep it all in mind!

And I will get video once im brave enough :P
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Yes, I get what you're saying, about the reins, but I for example jump a pony which will simply go 100m/h if I have loose reins! XD So you have a very nice horse which you can practice that on, and I'm not against it, but you wont always have the possibility to do it like that :) You have to learn not to rely on reins also when you have them.

Haha, well when you get a video, be sure to tell me, I'd love to see it! Seems like you two make a good team ;)

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haha yeah! Im kinda suprised she hasnt, she's only 5 and only been broke a year. She loves speed :P

Thanks! Ill definitely send a PM over your way when I get a video :)
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post #9 of 11 Old 08-23-2009, 09:57 PM
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Smile jumping tips

You seem to be jumping a head a bit and rounding you back so when you come to a fence wait and let your horse come up to you rather than going down to him and as for you back stretch up in your saddle as you are coming to a fence and as you begin to two point think about hollwing out your back and making it concave. Also give a bit more of a release. As for getting ou horse to tuck up more do some gymnastices such as combinations, bounces, one strides etc.
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post #10 of 11 Old 08-24-2009, 12:27 AM Thread Starter
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From what I learned from here and videos you don't want to hollow your back, you want a nice straight back.

Im working on my release :)
I will work on the gymnastics

Thanks for the reply :)
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