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post #21 of 34 Old 10-12-2009, 08:41 PM
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Has nothing to do with whether the horse needs lunge work or not - has to do with the rider not supporting to the base of the fence and driving forward.

If the horse doesn't have aid from his/her rider - then the result is this.
From this post, it sounds like you are saying that if the rider doesn't support the horse at the base of the jump and dives forward, the end result is the OP? I believe this is what she thought too.


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How so? If you go back to my origional post on page #1 - you will clearly see that I copied and pasted the comment IluvJunior said, and clearly posted in regards to what she said.

Did I say "to the OP?" anywhere at all in my post?? Did I say "this comment, even though I copied and pasted what Iluvjunior just said - is directed to the OP"??

IluvJunior suggested to correct the pony by lunging him over fences, when the pony is only doing what his rider is asking.

I have nothing to add as to what has already been said. My comment was directed to Iluvjunior.

Don't assume anything.


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MIeventer: I didn't mean that he was doing anything wrong, I meant so that he gets both his feet picked up. In my opinion that's how to teach them to jump is lunging them and free jumping them. Is this not correct??

By the way Liz you look awesome for your second time jumping ;) forgot to add that the first time!

somewhere behind the rider you've become the hours of practice you've put in & the coaches that have pushed you is the little girl who fell in love with the sport and never looked back. ride for her.
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MIeventer: I didn't mean that he was doing anything wrong, I meant so that he gets both his feet picked up. In my opinion that's how to teach them to jump is lunging them and free jumping them. Is this not correct??
A good way to teach a horse to tuck up and round over fences is by doing bigger fences, in grids.

The OP has only been jumping just very minimally and is just starting out. She is more focused on her form, which is very important especially at the early stages - and I wouldn't be focsed on the impulsion or asking for a more forward rhythm from the horse at all.

When the rider is ready, at that point - she will beable to close her lower leg around her horses girth, and use her seat for a more forward momentum out of her pony.

But right now, I wouldn't even be worried about that, nor what her pony looks like going over a small x rail - if I were her coach, I would be totally 100% focused on what she is doing in the saddle form wise.

Solidifying form now, at an early stage is a fabulous way to give the rider the essential tools needed for when she is ready to merge forward in her training.

The Lunge Line is a great idea - personally I would put the OP on a lunge line with her pony - so that the OP can focus directly on herself and where she is in the saddle, instead of having to not only worry about where she is, and where her pony is at the same time.

I think she's doing a great job as it is for her 2nd time only over fences.

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MIE, I normally find your jumping critiques to be quite good, but this post was a little rude and not at all helpful to the OP.
Wouldn't it be a whole lot less rude to PM a question to a poster or to ask the poster what they meant instead of calling them rude?

So, my question to you is this: In what way was MIE rude? I didn't read her post as rude. I do think that it's easy to mistake plain speaking individuals as rude, especially on the internet when we cannot use facial expression and tone of voice to interpret their messages.

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OK, time to get this thread back on track...

To the OP - you have a wonderful position for just your second time jumping, there are just a couple of little things that need working on:

1. Your heels are slipping up a little, as JDI said flatwork in two point position will go a long way to help this, just around and around and around until you feel like your legs will fall off

2. In the 3rd photo you look to be standing in your stirrups rather than folding from your hips as in the first two photos, it can happen when you get a little bit ahead of yourself rather than waiting for the horse to lift you out of the saddle.

Aside from that, your position is really really good considering you are just starting to jump! Keep up the great work

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Good grief. I'm not overtaking this thread with some useless banter.
Joshie, that post is also not contributing anything to this thread. The OP was upset by MIE's remark, and I thought it was out-of-place too, so I made a comment.

Anything to do with MIE's comment can be dropped now, as we have figured it out. Thank you.


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OK, time to get this thread back on track...

To the OP - you have a wonderful position for just your second time jumping, there are just a couple of little things that need working on:

1. Your heels are slipping up a little, as JDI said flatwork in two point position will go a long way to help this, just around and around and around until you feel like your legs will fall off

2. In the 3rd photo you look to be standing in your stirrups rather than folding from your hips as in the first two photos, it can happen when you get a little bit ahead of yourself rather than waiting for the horse to lift you out of the saddle.

Aside from that, your position is really really good considering you are just starting to jump! Keep up the great work
Good advice! I had to at the bolded part... funny cause it's true.


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post #29 of 34 Old 10-13-2009, 01:26 AM Thread Starter
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First of all, thank you to everyone who gave me a critique, I now definetly have plenty I can work on!! I'll try to get some pics taken of me next time I jump so I can just add them to this thread and see if I followed the advice.

I just wanted to clarify that at first, I was a little offended at what MIEventer posted in her first post. I know it was clearly directed at me, but it sure felt like it. So thanks everyone for clarifying what exactly it meant.

Thanks again!
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your horse is being very sweet to you, she'll help you learn lots. can she jump well?

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