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post #11 of 17 Old 06-08-2010, 02:49 PM Thread Starter
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Originally Posted by UnrealJumper View Post
It looks to me like you need to fold your body over jumps more rather than push yourself up.
Thanks that has been my main concern lately seem to be able to get it over single fences at home but not on course really need to work on that thanks for pointing it out as it's good to be reminded

Originally Posted by sullylvr View Post
Well it seems to me the biggest thing is yalls speed. Tone it down a bit he's going a little fast. But idk if this was a speed event. Also I noticed he looks to the outside alot, the placement of his head lost you some control and his focus. But otherwise y'all look good! Nice round!
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That is actually her slowed down a lot since the last time I took her out. But I do realise we need to slow down a little

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At 0.45 - 0.46 it really looks like your seasawing on her mouth , it may just be the video but im not totally sure. Although it may be a speed even she looks to be a tad ofo of control in the speed she can be just as fast but more collected and under control . What a great little jumper though !
I just re-watched it there it really does look like I am seesawing doesn't it? I assure you I am not and never will seesaw my horse's mouth I find it an awful thing to do. Again on the speed thing as I said above :)

Originally Posted by ~*~anebel~*~ View Post
I totally have a horse that jumps like this. I know you'd probably love to slow down and be a bit more controlled but the more you focus on control, the less you have.
This is a case of a rider that's doing a good job on a nice horse with the wrong mentality. Horse sport is such a mind game.
You need to first of all stop focusing on the fences. If your horse gets a bad spot, they're barely at her shoulders and they fall down. She's smart enough that she'll figure it out and if she's at all like my horse she hates touching rails and will do anything to avoid them.
Think about soft heels, soft elbows and driving your shoulders to your hips. You are strong and soft in the wrong places. Let your heels come down and stabilize you, let your shoulders come down and stabilize you and then your arms can be soft and allow a release. After that, count. I ride a jumping course counting 1 2 3 4 over and over again. Regulate the horse's stride with your weight and legs. Sit up, relax and she'll slow down, I promise. Put your leg on and lighten your seat - there's your forward aid. Just maintain a rhythm and she will find the spots.

Good luck!
First of all thank you so much for saying I'm doing a good job on her that is such a complement as I know how much of an acomplished (sp?) rider you are Anebel. Second of all yes we would love to slow down or rather I would love to slow down so thank you thank you thank you for all your advice on relaxing the right places and being soft in the right places. I will take all of this to heart thank you so much everyone I will be working on this stuff this week and next week have another jump cross on the 20th hope you guys will go through critiquing again for me Hope we improve by then

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post #12 of 17 Old 06-08-2010, 02:54 PM
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I didn't figure you would but for a quick second it looked like you were and I didnt want to accuse you so I did mention it could have just been the video. My mare is very quick too at the canter the last 2 days I've tried something new and its slowed her down drastically !!!! If you want any tips let me know

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I see *huge* improvements over the last time you posted for a critique. Phoebe's front end is much tighter most of the time and she looks really good. I say "most of the time" because when she gets in tight to a fence her forearm still points downward somewhat. This is fairly common, a lot of horses need a little time to rotate their shoulder and bring the forearm up and if they get in too close they don't get it. So beware really close spots with her.

Other improvements I see are that you're keeping a pretty nice rhythm at the beginning of your course.

Pace and control and riding a set track have all also improved.

Phoebe also looks a lot fitter.

Things to work on:

Counterbending around the corners

Maintaining the rhythm all the way through the course. As she quickens and you fight with her, the liklihood of her running up under the fence to a difficult distance increases.

Keeping a soft, following seat all the way through. As she tenses, you lose your soft following, with a predicatable result. I really liked the way anabel described this, and her suggestions.

Great job. Keep up the good work.
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Okay I'm just going to start out by saying I absolutely love your horse! What a cutie!!
Anyhoodle, for a critique..
I realize this is a jumper round, so it is important for speed (obv.) But there is a difference between a good speed, and an uncontrolled speed. Phoebe seems very strung out and almost uncomfortable in her surroundings. I'm assuming this show was an off-property show, as in you went away to it, because she seems a little distracted at times. But when she is paying attention, she is just tearing up that course!! lol . Your need to relax your body in these situations, like mentioned by others, to let her relax. And to help you out a little with that counterbending, you should really use that inside leg on her, and bend her with your inside rein. If she is not responding, lift your inside rein a tad bit in an upward direction to 'pick her up'.
Now from the beginning of the course to the end, I could just feel the tension building and building. You began to tense up a lot and after about the second or third jump, you were not giving her any release at all! Which was affecting her jumping, and her way of moving about the course in general. Before the jump, you need to take a big breath and loosen up a little. Sink your heels and lock them around her barrel at the girth. And your release should be at least halfway up her neck. I think I stopped it at 1:16 or something like that, and it shows you two, mid-jump. She looks like she is trying to stretch her neck down and tighten up your knees, but you haven't given her any release and so she has held back, and tensed up a lot.
But enough about the negative, lets talk about the positive! You have a nice way of jumping other than your leg and release problems. You have a good flat back and are attentive and looking to your next jump. Your horse has a good jumping style. She is athletic and spunky! Her hind legs leave the ground evenly pushing off and she is trying to round out over the jumps and tighten up her knees.
So again, I really stress the importance of that release. And just relax for goodness sakes!! LOL
Beautiful horse though and a lovely clear round! :)
Sorry if I come off as a tough critiquer though, but whats a critique if I only tell you what you're doing right? haha
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Thank you everyone for your critique I know what all I really need to work on now Have another jump cross competition tomorrow so hopefully we will look even better thanks to your help

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