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post #21 of 37 Old 03-06-2011, 09:48 PM
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does he have a good half halt ? you leaning back will not make him sit back. at the same time you dont want to lean forward. tilting your pelvis forward will slightly close your hip angle, but you dont want to lean forward farther than that.

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does he have a good half halt ? you leaning back will not make him sit back. at the same time you dont want to lean forward. tilting your pelvis forward will slightly close your hip angle, but you dont want to lean forward farther than that.
Not really, but we're working on his responsiveness. I guess it's more of a mental thing that I THINK it will help even if it doesn't LOL. So pretty much, more closed hip angle, but shoulders back so I'm not leaning forward?


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You and I have the same issue- elbows. I would like to see a teensy bit more bend in your elbow. My trainer calls them "your shock absorbers." Bent elbows=Safer ride and easier release. Speaking of release, I think yours is fine. Next time your jumping think about contact while going over. Does it increase or decrease? It should stay the same, and yours looks like it does.

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I dont know to much about critique but I just wanted to say that you and your horse(hes gourious btw lol) look great and the course your jumping looks like so much fun!

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Not really, but we're working on his responsiveness. I guess it's more of a mental thing that I THINK it will help even if it doesn't LOL. So pretty much, more closed hip angle, but shoulders back so I'm not leaning forward?
if he doesnt have a good half halt, lead changes are going to be hard. i personally prefer to teach lead changes slightly out of the saddle so the horse has the freedom to change and i dont get in their way. [this means doing the change mostly of the leg] if he is not in front of your leg [you should be able to get him to sped up/slow down as much as you want in the moment] you will also have trouble getting the changes.

just put more weight on your pubis compared to your seat bones, your leg will come back slightly and you will be able to stay with his motion better.

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if he doesnt have a good half halt, lead changes are going to be hard. i personally prefer to teach lead changes slightly out of the saddle so the horse has the freedom to change and i dont get in their way. [this means doing the change mostly of the leg] if he is not in front of your leg [you should be able to get him to sped up/slow down as much as you want in the moment] you will also have trouble getting the changes.

just put more weight on your pubis compared to your seat bones, your leg will come back slightly and you will be able to stay with his motion better.
I worked on lead changes with him today, and it went relatively well. I tried riding him slightly out of the saddle for the changes, and it worked out pretty well. It seemed like the combination that worked best with him was to ride in a half-seat up until about 4 strides out, then sit down slightly, then lighten my seat for the change; he seemed to respond well to this.
I also focused on everything you guys have been suggesting, and I think it's all improving! It will obviously take time to get it all so I don't have to think about it, but I felt a whole lot better. So thank you all for the suggestions! :)


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im glad you guys are improving with the changes =]

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Overall, I really like what I see. You have a nice leg, you are using a deep seat to help regulate the horse. What I would like to see you work on has already been addressed....your hands/arms.

By riding with flat hands (piano hands) you allow your elbows to bow out. Your hands often drop a little low as well. This all breaks the ability to flow your horse's movements with a reliable contact. As a result of the inconsistent contact, the horse often hollows and braces against your hands. This is a very common problem, by the way.

Bring your thumbs up, allow your elbows to stay along your ribs, follow every move the horse's head makes without changing the contact (unless you mean to). Try to fuss a lttle less, too.

I respectfully disagree with jumpriders idea of the "perfect release". Crest releases are for beginner riders who need a "prop" and need to use the horse's neck for support. All riders should, at least, attempt to learn an automatic release, which is what it looks like you are attempting. It is what I am using on my avatar.

Yes, I agree you need to allow more freedom of the horse's head/neck over fences. Don't set your hands over the jump...allow more give.

I think you are quite talented and wish you were closer to me so I could get my hands on you ;)

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Thank you! I feel like I'm not able to get Thumper to rock back as much when my pelvis is more forward, especially for lead changes, but I suppose that's just because I'm not used to it? I'll work on this for next time.
I did notice the piano hands myself, but overall WOW you are coming along so well. Thinking back to where you were like a year ago, just amazing! You're really letting the horse come to you and your seat is coming along so well.

I like the way you're using your position to get him to rock back more so I think it is ok for what you're doing and the level you're at (you're not sitting back to much in other words). Glad you're doing some dressage too because this will help you get Thumps more through. This is probably the biggest problem you're having with your lead changes. He reminds me of my boy who can be a bit behind the leg and on the forehand, especially when he gets tired. As you continue to become more balanced and know how to get your horse working better you will need less of that driving seat to get your lead changes.

Keep it up, I just LOVE seeing your progress!!
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