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    08-09-2010, 06:56 AM
Jumping critique also possible buy.

7 y/o mare. Has had some different riders. Got a chance to ride her about a month ago and since I really see a potential there I might like to buy her. Also would like to now how much she could be worth.
Crossbreed (father is a holstein, mother toric X thoroughbred cross). I think she's about 16hh (or bit more because I'm quite tall).
And I definitely need some critique on my seat since I train alone!

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    08-09-2010, 07:16 AM
She appears to be cute and able and a useful sort of horse.

The second photo is the best in terms of her form; with knees well up and nice and tight below. However, she is what Americans would call a "splinter belly" jumper - she jumps very flat, with her belly the lowest point of her body, rather than rounding over a fence and showing a bascule. This will limit her scope, she will probably start to struggle a little as the fences get to the 3'3" - 3'6" range.

The third photo is either taken a little late on the downward part of the arc or she got into the fence wrong, or both. Doesn't flatter either of you; except that I really like your release in that photo.

Can't give you any opinion on price, sorry, as I have no idea what horses go for in your area.

For someone who's self taught your form is excellent. I would like to see you carry your stirrup more on the ball of your foot, at a slight angle with the outside branch ahead of the inside. This will allow more weight to travel down into your heel and refine your leg position. I'd also like to see your hand and arm come a little more forwad in your release in the first and second photos. Other than that, good working functional position, good automatic release.

The flat photo isn't great - you need some weight in the heel, and to straighten your shoulder slightly. You also need to shorten your rein and carry your hand and arm out ahead of you more, with thumbs up and maintaining a straight line from bit to elbow (This is actually better in the over fences photos.)
    08-09-2010, 07:43 AM
Thank You. I have had some problems with her in canter. The last photo is the worst I was able to found and that's why it's here. I just need to know my biggest problems since I'll be riding her for a long time. The flat photo is taken when I first ride her. Others are taken about a month after that.

On the third photo she went really down. Little mistake by myself with calculating the steps. Managed to save that quite good since it was that low.

I have done most work with my hands in jumping. It used to be a lot worse (but the picture here if I found it). I'm glad to see and hear that it has improved in time. I have a "coach" to train me 5-6 times a month but since she doesn't have a license and it's almost forbidden to call others to train us (we have really weird rules in our stable) I have big problems with my seat.
I took some courses in other stable and had some useful tips to get as far as I am know. This is what my seat used to be.
    08-09-2010, 11:05 AM
She is a really pretty horse and a nice jumper, but her feet hang a little.

You look hunched a little, and your heals need to be down. The flat picture your heals need to be down and I think you should put your hands up a little, and not have them so close to your body. Maybe try shorten your reins. But for training alone you look great.

And why arent you wearing a helmet? I had to say something it just a pet peeve of mine. I hope you were careful.
    08-09-2010, 02:05 PM
I wasn't wearing a helmet because it was hot like hell. I never jump without helmet but in really hot summer days I sometimes don't use it in regular trainings. I had it on before since it was our first lesson together and when I started feeling more safe and comfortable I took it off. So it was about 20 minutes without it I suppose.
    08-09-2010, 02:19 PM
Originally Posted by Artemis    
I wasn't wearing a helmet because it was hot like hell. I never jump without helmet but in really hot summer days I sometimes don't use it in regular trainings. I had it on before since it was our first lesson together and when I started feeling more safe and comfortable I took it off. So it was about 20 minutes without it I suppose.
I know what you mean when your helmet gets all sweaty and gross on those hot days.
    08-09-2010, 03:44 PM
Yeah...thats it =)

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