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        09-28-2009, 04:37 PM
    I agree with MIeventer. Something my trainer used to do when I was schooling was take a peice of bailing twine and tie my stirrup to the girth. That way when it slid back just an inch or two I would feel it and it helped me to realized when I had slipped. And keeping that stirrup where it belongs, about an inch forward with the outside angled more forward (its actually angled in the wrong direction in the first photo) will help as well.
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        09-28-2009, 06:40 PM
    I'd love to submit this pic to George Morris and see what he says. I was always taught that rider's lower leg should always stay perpendicular to the ground whether doing flatwork, trails or jumping. His or her relative position in the air should never change. Only the upper body from the hips up should open and close as necessary to stay over the horse's center. Wish I could remember where I learned that.
        09-28-2009, 06:46 PM
    I studiously read GM's critiques and have his books and videos. I guarantee you he'd say it slipped back as well. Whenever he comes to my neck of the woods, for clinics - you can guarantee I am there auditing and listening to him religiously.

    He stresses time and time again that the leg must remain at the girth for multiple reasons.

    The toes should never fall behind the girth, nor surpass it.

    He stresses over and over again that we must train our muscles to stick to the girth.
        09-28-2009, 07:02 PM
    If that horse disappears out from under her, she's landing on her feet. With her legs at the girth, she'd fall on her butt. It's just confusing. If her lower leg had slipped back, she'd most likely be over jumping. Instead she's beautifully just enough out of the saddle and staying with her horse's jump. If the OP doesn't mind, I'd love to show this pic to some jumping experts at the upcoming Equine Affair and see what they have to say.
        09-28-2009, 07:24 PM
    No, loosing your lower leg doesn't mean you'd be jumping ahead. If you were gripping with your knees, yes - that blocks the flow of our bodies weight that is supposed to naturally dispurse from our upper body into our heels.

    When you grip with your knees, that causes your lower leg to fling back and your upper body to fling forward.

    If you are not gripping your knees but still are not solidifying your lower leg at the girth with your inner calf *being wrapped around our horses, not just ontop* you can still loose your lower leg, but you wont be thrown off balance, because there is no knee gripping that disrupts the bodies balance.

    I invite you to studdy GM's pictures. And Beezie Maddens. Look at where their legs are. Look at riders back in the 50's.

    Read GM's columns. Legs must be solidifed at the girth, knee's open and inner calf wrapped around our horse. Toes must be just at the girth. Not at the center, not surpassed. Just at the girth.
        09-28-2009, 07:31 PM
    I agree with MIEventer. :)
    The OP looks great though IMO (apart from the slipped leg).
        09-28-2009, 07:35 PM
    Take away your sturrups ... it will create a really strong leg (i would suggest someone who knows what they are doing or your trainer give you pointers so that you are working on your position correctly) and force you not to rely on your sturrups ... when I was on the equestrian team in college we didn't get sturrups for the first 2 months or so...

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